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Miami Vice VTR250

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Hi Guys - been a while, I've been dealing with dragons that just seem to congregate outside my door - but I have something from left field that may or may not be appropriate for this esteemed forum, and I don't know anybody else to ask...

I don't know what possessed me - but this followed me home the other day. Hasn't been on the road since 2007, and is a rather rare bike:
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It's a 1989 Honda VTR250, supposedly a blast to ride. It's pretty small - my knees hug the tank - but Hey, it's a Honda, right?? lolol

The case looks like crap but the innards (as I found out when I was trying to get it to roll off the truck bed thinking the clutch plates were stuck - they weren't ) is pretty immaculate - and only 5K on the speedometer! I thought the clutch plates were locked up, but it turned out to be the rear brake shoes, which were frozen to the wheel and no, I haven't tried to start it yet.
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It cranks, when I do the old 'screwdriver to the solenoid trick, but my problem is, there's no key...(see gas cap and barren start switch below). Does anybody know how to get either (A) into the gas cap without a key, or (B) where is the key code located? I haven't taken the switch out yet, but this bike is 'all there'; there's still gas in the tank too! Probably varnish by now, which I would like to get out, add some fresh gas and see if it starts. The oil was still golden when I drained it!...I took off the magenta/white side plastics to get to the rest of it. (It's very "Miami Vice" looking - I'm still not sure about how I feel about it! lolol )
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Anybody know anything about this bike? I have the shop manual, but since winter is almost upon us I'm thinking this will have to wait until spring. Maybe.
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Don't know anything about the bike or where to get keys but I like the color combo. Seems to me if you get it running and cleaned up it would be a good candidate for a flip. I'm wondering if you can somehow track down the key code via the VIN.
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I am just in the process of doing that, although I'm leery of what that key will cost going through a dealer - 'suck it up', I guess...but that's why I was curious as to whether there was a way of getting the gas cap off, because whole sets of gas caps and ignition switches that fit that bike are available online for cheap.

Yeah, the color combo grows on you the more you look at it, I've found. Here's a pic of the same bike, but not 'my' bike, obviously...I was stationed in Florida in the late 80's and this color scheme was everywhere, it seemed. I have all the plastics for it too, which are apparently very hard to come by.
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Speaking of which, any idea how to get this crease-dent out...? The guy I bought this from showed me the pic of a falling-down shed that had collapsed where the bike was stored that he was asked to take down by the PO and she just gave it to him.
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No title, but that's easy enough to remedy...It has a '07 registration sticker on it and other than that, and a lot of surface grunge, the bike is all there. Except for the key, of course...I wish I knew what the backstory was on this little bike, and how it wound up in a dark, dilapidated shed for 16 years with only 5K on the clock...
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Bike was looking good until the pink showed up. I would seriously consider changing that to a complementary shade of blue if it were my bike. Those bikes are made for small statured riders. Maybe someone outgrew it and just left it.
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Naw, keep the pink. I've never seen something scream "The Eighties" so much in my life. 😁

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Thanks Lucien! I admit, it does stand out in my garage full of classic UJM's...plus I think it attracts the ladies (not that I encourage that- I am married, after all (cough-cough), but of course I don't mind it ...I actually caught a girl bending her neck to look at it at a stoplight when I was bringing it home...and after sitting on it - I'm 6'1" and a portly (ahem) "over 55" and 235 lbs of Pure Fun...but having to tuck in to get my legs around it...I can see where the attraction comes from. I can see how ripping around the soft sweepers of the Blue Ridge Parkway could become addicting. Now I just have to bring her back to life!
Already got the battery and other necessities on the way.

And besides - wouldn't you kill to go back 35-plus years and get a Do-Over...? Yeah, You know - what's her name...and I'm not talking about the bike...

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Oh, and it's not Pink - it's "Magenta" !! Lol... anim-cheers1
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My son has a VFR700 with the gear driven cams, and he had the no key for gas cap issue. The cap looks a lot like yours. We found that removing the screws gets you nowhere.

Brought it to a local locksmith we've used for a few different bikes. $50 to pick the lock and cut two keys for it. Maybe one could help you.

The real problem was the rust in the tank, but he has that bike on the road.

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Yeah, I called up a local locksmith that I was referred to by the Honda shop, and they said they'd be happy to cut me a key for the princely sum of one hundred and fifty bucks...So, Um, No...

However, I did come across a set of these - jiggler keys, essentially a lock pick set, $15 on Amazon...anybody ever do anything with these...?
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Apparently they do just what they are described as - you stick them into a lock, jiggle them around and try to get all the lock tumblers to release. There's a lot of videos online of people using them to open car doors, door locks, etc...$10 a set, I figured what the heck, might work. I hope I don't have to, but I'm not too keen on drilling into a steel lock tumbler with a steel drill bit over a gas tank half-full of old gas. It probably wouldn't explode...probably...

This guy has a video on YouTube that's pretty informative on how to pick a motorcycle lock. He's not using jiggler keys, but he explains the principle really well.
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That gets it open...but....everytime you want to open it?
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Might be able to get it open then take it to a locksmith and get a key made, might be cheaper that way.
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Trust me, once you get that running right, some GOOD tyres on it and get into some twisties, your grin will go past ear to ear and join up at the back of your skull!
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tumb2 :lol:
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There is usually a key code on the ignition switch, fork lock, helmet lock and/or the gas cap lock. If you can get to any of these and remove them, the code might be on the back. Hope this works for you.
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Maybe this could help a bit, if you have to butcher the fuel lock.
https://www.amazon.com/Locking-CBR125RS ... B07Y5ZGR6Z

By the way, that version is pretty rare. USA and Canada 1998-99 only. You didn't get the later unfaired ones.
Sourcing 16" front tyre might be fun. That version was a screamer - check out the red line! You need to rev it, bottom end is next to non-existant. Later versions were a lot tamer.
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