is the 84 stator unique?
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is the 84 stator unique?
I'm getting mixed messages, got a ebay seller saying saying his stators will only fit 85 and up.
Then others saying the 85 stator will fit the 84, what gives???
Then others saying the 85 stator will fit the 84, what gives???
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Hi, the stators are all the same from what I know, 1000, 1100, 1200 are all the same.
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Some 1200's had a larger stator, the 85, maybe just the LTD, but I think 85 and up were a bit different. They had a little more juice.
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
This is 'quote'-as far as I know:
The same stator will fit all 1000,1100 and non-injected 1200
That said, the original 1000/1100s were rated at 300 watts and the 1200s were rated at 350.
The injection models had a bigger stator and rotor and were rated at 500. They also have a bigger rear engine case to accommodate it.
The same stator will fit all 1000,1100 and non-injected 1200
That said, the original 1000/1100s were rated at 300 watts and the 1200s were rated at 350.
The injection models had a bigger stator and rotor and were rated at 500. They also have a bigger rear engine case to accommodate it.
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
one thing that is different is the pulsar hangs off the back end on the 84 and it is ties to the front shaft (and pully for the timing gears) 85-87. And yes the Ltd is different
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"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
I'm pretty sure all the 1200s, other than the FI LTD, had the same stator. 350 or 360 watts, don't remember for sure. I looked once for Ricks Electrics stator and it showed the same part number for 1000 1100 and 1200 as I remember.
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
if that is so, then the still available OEM stator for the 1200 should fit into a 1000??
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The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
if this is the case can the 85-87 be adapted to fit the 84?rcmatt007 wrote:one thing that is different is the pulsar hangs off the back end on the 84 and it is ties to the front shaft (and pully for the timing gears) 85-87. And yes the Ltd is different
Ride'on.............
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84 GL-1200 Standard
88 VN-1500
98 XR-400
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
The 84 was a one year only engine. The whole thing was comprehensively overhauled for the 85 on models.
Crankcase, rear case, clutch cover, etc. None of these interchangeable with the 84.
The front-of-crank ignition system pick-ups also have mounting points on the block, if I remember rightly.
So I guess the answer is no.
Crankcase, rear case, clutch cover, etc. None of these interchangeable with the 84.
The front-of-crank ignition system pick-ups also have mounting points on the block, if I remember rightly.
So I guess the answer is no.
Last edited by Old Fogey on Fri Jan 09, 2015 2:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
Old Fogey is right. No way to use 85+ pulse gens on the 84
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Don't fix it 'til it's broke...
The person with the most toys wins!
If it has wheels or a skirt you can't afford it.
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2021 HD Triglide
2008 HD Dyna Low Rider
83 KZ1100L1 Son totaled it
83 KZ550LTD Shaft sold
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
yes that is correct concerning the pulse generators, my question is can the stator of a 85 be used in a 84?jdvorchak wrote:Old Fogey is right. No way to use 85+ pulse gens on the 84
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
I have a stator out of an '84 I have no need of, pretty sure it's good. Have to check, pulled it out of an '84 engine from a Std.(swallowed a valve). Shoot me an email at stuffy402@aol.com if interested.
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
I think the general feeling is yes, but no one is for sure.pugetsoundsailer wrote:yes that is correct concerning the pulse generators, my question is can the stator of a 85 be used in a 84?jdvorchak wrote:Old Fogey is right. No way to use 85+ pulse gens on the 84
What I do know is that honda had problems with the stators failing in the 84's and most of them were replaced before the 80's were even over. It is possible that a different part # reflects the changes they made after those failures.
Sort of like the part # for the drive shaft changed during the 1000 series. The later ones had a better u-joint, but they all interchange
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The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: is the 84 stator unique?
When I get back out to OK, I will check as I have a new stator to put into our 1200, and I can compare it to a used 100 stator I have on the shelf. The other option is that I have a used 78 engine that needs the rear case gasket replaced, and I can pull that and see if the 1200 stator actually fits
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The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
all it takes for evil to prosper is the want of a few good men to do nothing-Edmund Burke
The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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