New Manifold avaialable?

[GLMotorBiker]

Searching around, I came across this:

http://myweb.midco.net/gl1000singlecarb ... ifold.html

(It looks like the link has changed. This one works here.)

Anybody else know of it or seen it. Looks nice. I wonder how much?

[kb0ou]

Just sent a email to him, it would be nice if he could provide it with injector bungs in the elbows and flanged to fit a throttle body.

[GLMotorBiker]

I e-mailed also, asking when and how much. She said this Spring and the price is undertermined. I didn't ask about fuel injection, but she said they are developing other products. She didn't say what products, but then again I didn't ask.

[kb0ou]

She indicated to me that they may be developing a manifold for EFI, we shall see.

[GLMotorBiker]

It looks like the link has changed. This one works here.

[bubblerboy64]

Fuel injection? Wouldn't that be wonderful? What's involved electrically, is it potentially doable? I love my fuel injected bikes. The wings are a PIA before they are warmed up. Would EFI solve this? I must admit I really don't know much about this. I just know when I start the wing it smokes, stinks, runs rough, stalls. When I start the 09 Suzuki it acts nice right away. I'd give my eye teeth to have the Wings act the same.

[Rat]

Pretty sure your eye teeth won't do it.

Now an '09 Wing .....

Gord

[Oldewing]

Now an '09 Wing .....

Gord

Hey, we don't have one of those yet

[kb0ou]

I am working on EFI for my 79 now.
Once tuned it should run really good.

[78AZWing]

I have mentioned doing this before.

You can do it your self by getting the conversion kit for the VW Squareback (type III) and trimming the runners to fit your intake elbows.

then you know the thing will fit your bike. Probably cost less too. Last time I checked it was only 400 bucks American for the kit including a progressive Weber style carburetor.

[78AZWing]

Thinking on the fuel injection.

You all want EFI on it. Why?

A very effective and efficient system was available on the '70s and early '80s series of rabbits, scirrocos and dashers. VW beasties.
If you can locate a operational engine from one of these cars, glom onto all of the CIS injection parts and then locate a high pressure electric pump. consisted of a throttle body, a fuel distributer with five injectors and the injectors that mounted into the manifold at the intake valves. The fifth injector was for cold starts. Little extra fuel at that time, cause there were no chokes on these cars.

Doesn't require a degree in electronics because you don't use any. and that whole system should fit the wing. you would have to drill the appropriate size holes in the elbows for the injectors. They mounted with rubber orings, and were just a press-in fit.

Some of the air-cooled bugs from that time frame came with an injection system, but I have no experience with them. Could also be made to fit, though.

[sunnbobb]

Interesting AZ, thanks for sharing.

[Larrycole]

Thinking on the fuel injection.

You all want EFI on it. Why?

A very effective and efficient system was available on the '70s and early '80s series of rabbits, scirrocos and dashers. VW beasties.
If you can locate a operational engine from one of these cars, glom onto all of the CIS injection parts and then locate a high pressure electric pump. consisted of a throttle body, a fuel distributer with five injectors and the injectors that mounted into the manifold at the intake valves. The fifth injector was for cold starts. Little extra fuel at that time, cause there were no chokes on these cars.

Doesn't require a degree in electronics because you don't use any. and that whole system should fit the wing. you would have to drill the appropriate size holes in the elbows for the injectors. They mounted with rubber orings, and were just a press-in fit.

Some of the air-cooled bugs from that time frame came with an injection system, but I have no experience with them. Could also be made to fit, though.

AZ respectfully, the VW CIS mechanical injection system is actually a huge pain to deal with, set up and repair. The introduction of EFI was a milestone improvement in reliability and ease of repair. See below

The Bosch K-Jetronic system is a continuous injection system (CIS) that is mechanically controlled. An air sensor in the intake path senses the amount of air that is being supplied and mechanically raises and lowers the control rod in the fuel control to meter the correct amount of fuel. There is a control pressure regulator that provides enrichment for engine warm-up. The control pressure regulator also senses engine manifold pressure to provide a richer mixture for high output operation.

This fuel injection system will eliminate the need for a mixture control as mixture is regulated automatically. In addition, there is no need for carb heat as the system does not have a venturi that might form ice in adverse conditions. This will be helpful to reduce the pilot workload. In addition the elimination of the carb heat and mixture controls will offset some of the weight increase of the fuel injection system. The net increase should be between five and ten pounds.

[78AZWing]

exactly what I am talking about.
Mechanically controlled.

No need to add more things to overtax that mediocre charging system.

and I never had a problem working on those old systems when I had them. Two different cars that we ran for years..

[gregforesi]

I looked at the MicroSquirt EFI system. Randakk's Weber manifolds with Jenvey throttle bodies (TFP40i - 422 euros for a pair without injectors) would work. Problem was getting enough electricity out of the weak stator to run: 70psi fuel pump, injectors, and the subsidiary stuff (like lights).