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Re: carb cleaning (yikes)
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:50 am
by confish86
Larry
I`m so glad you explaind why you did what you did & it makes sense about the low jet getting clogged up. The big thing is that you have been doing this kind of stuff for quite some time , & to a novice that figures that if they buy a book or video , they can do exactly what is in there. It takes alot more than that to be a good carb rebuilder & woundering how many are going to say (after they buy your great book) that , oh crap i just broke the easy out in the low jet (now what)

Kind of like the V4 carbs on my VF750c , as i`m sure i can rebuild them to be ok, but having someone that has been doing it for sometime is worth the money to have them do it (kind of plug & play) Also if you read my posting i really didn`t say anything negative about you , & did in one say ( maybe the guy is right & he`s figured out the exact size the bits have to be without enlarging the hole ) Yes i still belong to Chopper Charles site, even though i don`t own my CX650c (i think i was just too tall & fat to be comfortable on it)

but who knows
Welcome to the forum
Re: carb cleaning (yikes)
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:11 pm
by LRCXed
Thank you for the welcome Sagbrush. I will be in and out of here you can be sure. I'm looking at buying an 1100 goldwing soon if I can ever find the guys # to tell him I want it. It's in my old PC that crashed. I'm working on that now though.
Confish,
I know you didn't say or mean anything negative. I didn't take it that way at all. I'm sorry if I came across like I thought any of you did. I think it's cool that my process was even discussed. It shows that there are plenty of guys out there having carb issues and looking for a fix.
I know that most guys or gals are not comfortable with working on carbs let alone pulling out the low jet. But, as of this date no one has broken an easy out in a low jet. They have how ever broken one of in the main emulsion tubes. I have always said not to do that. I learned from experience. As I stated, the jet has an air gap around it, and lets the process work without tightening up the jet in the body. I'm sure some of you have carbs that are no good laying around. Try it. What have you got to loose if the carb is bad anyway. That's how I found out what to do. You may be surprised at what you find. This is what I found when I started pulling the jets out.
I did notice that most of you were open minded about the process I do. That's why I'm here. If I didn't think it was something that could be done by most anyone, I would have never told them about it. I would have just told them to send them to me and I'll charge them to do it for them. There are lots of people out there in the CX world that have never worked on carbs before and have had great success when they tried it them selves. Yes, it takes a bit of an investment to do it right when you have to buy the sonic cleaner and all the needed equipment. But how much would you pay for a great feeling of success and confidence that you would gain by having a smooth running bike that you did yourself?
Re: carb cleaning (yikes)
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:24 pm
by Roady
Larry, I'm happy that you showed up to point us in the right direction.
I have a set that needs doing and because of your excellent explanation and attention to detail I'll be cleaning those d@^n low jets using your method.
Thanks for joining us here and hopefully we can return the favor.
Re: carb cleaning (yikes)
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:40 pm
by LRCXed
Steve,
I'm glad the trip over here made it all clearer. Remember though that the carbs benefit from a good cleaning in a sonic cleaner. The debris that builds up on the jets also builds up inside the passages. If they are really dirty it may take a few hours of sonic to do them justice.
This may help you see why the passages are so critical to get cleaned out.

Re: carb cleaning (yikes)
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:56 pm
by confish86
LRCXed wrote:Steve,
I'm glad the trip over here made it all clearer. Remember though that the carbs benefit from a good cleaning in a sonic cleaner. The debris that builds up on the jets also builds up inside the passages. If they are really dirty it may take a few hours of sonic to do them justice.
This may help you see why the passages are so critical to get cleaned out.

That pic is so cool

Can you tell me what ultra sonic cleaner you have (industrial) only because i bought the heating one from Harbor freight , but never got it out of the box yet to try it.
http://www.harborfreight.com/25-liter-u ... 95563.html & it will hold one motorcycle carb with no trouble.
Re: carb cleaning (HMMMM)
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:16 am
by Trickster
I hate to say I told ya so, but.... as you can see Larry "does" know what he is talking about, and is a very classy guy worth having join this equally great forum.
Re: carb cleaning (HMMMM)
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:12 am
by LRCXed
Confish,
The sonic cleaner I use is an industrial one made by Prosonix. But I used the sonic cleaner from Harbor Freight Tools for a couple years before I got the new one. I did get their largest one though. It will fit two carbs in it just fine as long as you split the carbs first.
Here is a link to the size and style I have.
CLICK HERE I hope I did that right.
Thank you Trickster for the complement. I just hope I at least equal the class of the members on this forum.
I just wish I could get the phone # out of my old PC to the guy that has the naked Gl1100 I want to buy. Then I could really use the knowledge that's in this membership.
Larry
Re: carb cleaning (HMMMM)
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:27 am
by sunnbobb
Thanks for the excellent discussion Larry. It takes time to lay out such an explanation. I hope you keep on coming back!
Re: carb cleaning (HMMMM)
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:43 am
by confish86
I just wish I could get the phone # out of my old PC to the guy that has the naked Gl1100 I want to buy. Then I could really use the knowledge that's in this membership.
Larry[/quote]
There sure is alot of knowledge kicking around here

& when you do buy an 1100 i`m sure when your done it`ll be top notch like the ones you own (really like the 500 custom you did for your son) When you go to rebuild the carbs , you should look up Randakk for the kits (as his is the best & complete) Also the GL1100`s have the triple bypass also (Belts , waterpump, stator)

Re: carb cleaning (HMMMM)
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:03 am
by Rat
Welcome Larry, great to 'see' you here.
Drop in often.
Gord

Re: carb cleaning (HMMMM)
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:42 pm
by LRCXed
I have been back every day Rat. Good info here that can be used on other bikes besides the goldwings.
Re: carb cleaning (HMMMM)
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:48 pm
by confish86
Re: carb cleaning (HMMMM)
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:31 pm
by acasper708
So One of my carbs for my CX got screwed when I was cleaning it. So I talked to Larry LRCXed and he had a set of carbs that he did a total overhaul on. Drill bits and all. He even synchronized them. They run perfect straight out of the box, literally!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvKCdQon ... ata_player
These are better Lookin than when they were new.

Re: carb cleaning (HMMMM)
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:01 pm
by ramprat
I had forgotten about this thread, but saw it before I was a member here. Now that I am, let me give credit where credit is due. Not only does Larry (LRCXed) do fine work on carbs, but he is the one who I got G-Loria from, after a complete restoration. He started this project in August last year, and I rode it home from his place in Sacramento CA, to my place in Vancouver WA in one longggggg day in late May, just after my birthday. This bike is much like what the previous poster said about the carbs.....better looking than factory new. And it is in every aspect. When I say complete restoration....that is from the bolts up. I would never know this bike had 12K on it the way it runs. And all the details, from fairing to luggage were restored to new as well. Custom hand painted by him as well.
He did the carbs for my CX as well, and they are still true in performance over a year later. This post is not to discredit anyone else here, but merely to show that he is a valuable added resource here on this site. Any site that has knowledgeable members is a good site, as the benefits to those in need of help, find it.
Joel in the Couve
Re: carb cleaning (HMMMM)
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:22 am
by murrayf
let me stick my 2 cents worth in
i have just redone a cx500 for my wife it has been sitting for most of its life
its a 1980 with only 5 k miles on it
i have been wrenching on bikes and engines for 35 years plus so have done more than my share of carbs but never these
vb types on the cx
i took the ones off my wifes cx soaked them for 2 days in carb dip and 2 cycles thru my ultrasonic did the regular cleaning
blowing and setup with out removing any of the scary stuff
threw them back on it ran that is all i can say it would not idle or accelerate properly but some progress
i belong to the cx500 forum and had been reading about larrys book so i bought it
read the book
took the carbs off and redid them as per his instructions
put them back on the bike and havent even had to touch the sync on them
adjusted the mixture and idle and it starts and runs perfect my wife loves the thing it never misses a beat
my hats off to Larry on this one he was right about the passages being clogged and them needing to be stripped out
to clean properly our bike is proof enough for me
Murray