Made a decision
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- Graham Cracker
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Re: Made a decision
That's some pretty ugly stuff...good testament about the fuel filter though. Do you have access to ethanol free fuel?
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Re: Made a decision
Ugh. I'm not liking that! I RedCoted the tank in the 1100 I'm working on now. Hopefully I don't have similar issues...
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"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
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Re: Made a decision
Another Long HOT day in the shop but worth every drop of sweat.
IT LIVES!!!!
IT LIVES!!!!
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Re: Made a decision
You've got it close!
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Re: Made a decision
WF it sounds great and you say you haven't adjusted the valves or timed it?
You really went to town. I did video of my rig today also.
I'm hung up on the Head lamp and the body work is out.
Anyway, great job.
You really went to town. I did video of my rig today also.
I'm hung up on the Head lamp and the body work is out.
Anyway, great job.
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Re: Made a decision
I just stuck the dyna in there and it fired right up. I did loosen it up and watching the vibration of the mirrors I got it to smooth out a bit. I have one of Randakks Timing wheels and will do that before it hits the road. Not sure where I am going to set it though. This is a 77 engine with a 78 carb rack and 78 advancer. So I am going to have to think on that some. The valves I set when I built it but they will need a tweak before I ride it for the first time. They were removed and new seals put in and lapped so they need to seat some. That electric fuel pump worked nice. First cold start I cranked for maybe 5 seconds before she fired. Now it is touch the button.
It was 93 in the shop today and they are calling for 95 tomorrow so I might get out for a few hours but I am not up for another full day. If I get her on the road by the end of the week I will be happy.
It was 93 in the shop today and they are calling for 95 tomorrow so I might get out for a few hours but I am not up for another full day. If I get her on the road by the end of the week I will be happy.
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1984 GL1200 Standard
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Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
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"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
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1984 GL1200 Standard
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1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
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Re: Made a decision
Not close by. The nearest station is about 40 miles away. I normally go out there a couple times a year and get like 15 gallons and I use that for all my small engine stuff but it is too far to use in the bike on a regular basis.Graham Cracker wrote:That's some pretty ugly stuff...good testament about the fuel filter though. Do you have access to ethanol free fuel?
"Agreement is not a requirement for Respect" CDR Michael Smith USN (Ret) 2017
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
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Re: Made a decision
Did the valves first thing this morning, then the timing. With 78 Carbs and a 78 Advancer and 77 Cams I decided on 7.5 degrees for the baseline. Basically half way between the early and late profiles. She seems happy so far.
"Agreement is not a requirement for Respect" CDR Michael Smith USN (Ret) 2017
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
- ericheath
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Re: Made a decision
Never thought it would crack there. I'm going to look mine over. I think you'd like the 77 advancer, although you probably drive this one with more loads. C5 with VOES.
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Re: Made a decision
Have to put the beer in the side bags I guess ....
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Re: Made a decision
Yea swapping out the advancer is an easy thing to do. Once I get her on the road and see how she responds then I will decide if I want to play with it. This is a dressed over the road bike so economy and longevity is really more of a concern than speed performance. IIRC the advance for the 78 was like 5 degrees less at full. I suspect that could have a bigger impact on the cam performance than the carbs but I am just guessing. A little concerned she might run lean and maybe enough to have some knocking. Too many variables for me to figure in my head so I will have to experiment a bit while riding it.
I know when I checked the advance operation today with the strobe it did not quite hit the full mark for the 75 profile timing wheel I used and I had set the baseline at about 7.5 BTDC as opposed to the stock setting of 5 for that engine.
I know when I checked the advance operation today with the strobe it did not quite hit the full mark for the 75 profile timing wheel I used and I had set the baseline at about 7.5 BTDC as opposed to the stock setting of 5 for that engine.
"Agreement is not a requirement for Respect" CDR Michael Smith USN (Ret) 2017
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
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Re: Made a decision
RAT wrote:Have to put the beer in the side bags I guess ....
Gord
Back seat
The more I look at this and think about it those cracks show up where you would expect for a bike that is overloaded. The shocks would push those tail piece extensions up but the weight of the top box I think would push them down?? I carry a lot of stuff but I did not think it was that much. 99% of the time I ride solo and even when she is aboard the Better Half is not a big girl.
I know for the rest of the year my tools will be in the side boxes or in the seat behind me.
"Agreement is not a requirement for Respect" CDR Michael Smith USN (Ret) 2017
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
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Re: Made a decision
Unfortunately the temp does not show the heat index of the humidity NW OK is very humid and so the temp may be 100, but the humidity makes it feel like 110 (when the sweat is rolling down the end of your cap a 10 am)
sort of like the humidity in San Francisco, makes the summer 55 feel like the low 40's (the coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco)
back to the thread.... that is some pile of er, stuff, n the tank. Gotta love that humidity in Norfolk
sort of like the humidity in San Francisco, makes the summer 55 feel like the low 40's (the coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco)
back to the thread.... that is some pile of er, stuff, n the tank. Gotta love that humidity in Norfolk
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The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: Made a decision
Well she rides! First ten miles down. Had to jump inside to check the radar. Can hear boomers starting up but it looks like I can sneak out for a bit.
"Agreement is not a requirement for Respect" CDR Michael Smith USN (Ret) 2017
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
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Re: Made a decision
Yay!
Boomer? another Americanism? thunder maybe?
Boomer? another Americanism? thunder maybe?
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