The first time this happened it felt like I was out of gas. I had enough gas, I changed the fuel filter at the end of the day. The next day it seemed fine at the start, later in the day the issue came back.
1. The issue is inconsistent, sometime it runs as it should.
2. The majority of the time the issue is when I am between 2800 and 3300 RPM.
3. It can run and start fine, then in the middle of a ride the issue can show up.
Anyone else with similar? The concern is with inconsistencies is how to find it (when its not there) and do I start with the carbs, fuel pump etc? Or, the ignition system?
The bike does have an aftermarket electronic ignition.
Thanks in advance!
77 Inconsistent, Fuel or Spark or?
Moderators: Oldewing, CYBORG, robin1731, Forum Moderators
-
- Brass Member
- Posts: 30
- Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:09 pm
- Fred Camper
- Vice President
- Posts: 7430
- Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:38 pm
- My Album: http://www.ngwclub.com/gallery/v/wingmans/Jeff+Bozeman/
- Location: Metro Detroit
- Contact:
Re: 77 Inconsistent, Fuel or Spark or?
Seems like ignition to me. I had a aftermarket (Dina) ignition in my bike that would drop two cylinders once in a while. Carbs generally do not do that. Electronic ignitions do get hot that close to the engine so I would start by replacing it as you really cannot diagnose it when it is behaving well. On a car I once put an led on the component and grounded the other leg and routed the LED to the dash, and sure enough when I had the issue the LED would go out. As Gord says below, a gas cap that does not vent behaves the same way. If you pop the gas cap when it happens next and it solves it, a new cap is your solution.
Proud member of the NGW Cartel (Rochester MI)
1977 GL1000 BADDOG (April 2012 BOTM)
1976 LTD - '993 LTD...and so it begins'
You should remember that it's peace of mind you're after and not just fixing the machine. R.Pirsig
1977 GL1000 BADDOG (April 2012 BOTM)
1976 LTD - '993 LTD...and so it begins'
You should remember that it's peace of mind you're after and not just fixing the machine. R.Pirsig
- Rat
- Photo Gallery Admin
- Posts: 15933
- Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:59 pm
- My Album: https://www.ngwclub.com/gallery/v/wingmans/rat/
- RIP: cookie, KyPM, Roady
- Location: Toronto .... Canada
Re: 77 Inconsistent, Fuel or Spark or?
Check gas cap venting ?
Gord(been there)Jones
Gord(been there)Jones
"I'd rather Ride than Shine"
‘14 KLR650 ... not a rat ... yet
‘84 GL1200i ‘R2B6' (Rat to Be 6, the last, adopted by twowings)
My Original 'RAT' was a hybrid '82 CB900/1100F
‘14 KLR650 ... not a rat ... yet
‘84 GL1200i ‘R2B6' (Rat to Be 6, the last, adopted by twowings)
My Original 'RAT' was a hybrid '82 CB900/1100F
-
- Brass Member
- Posts: 30
- Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:09 pm
Re: 77 Inconsistent, Fuel or Spark or?
I'll try the gas cap first. Can't get much easier then that!
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm hoping to not have the change the ignition, the inconsistency makes me believe it is a spark issue.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm hoping to not have the change the ignition, the inconsistency makes me believe it is a spark issue.
- CYBORG
- Moderator
- Posts: 25005
- Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:52 pm
- Location: Muskegon mich
Re: 77 Inconsistent, Fuel or Spark or?
Had a similar problem. Turned out to be the fuel filter particularly blocked
1978 custom GL1000
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
- gltriker
- Honored Life Member
- Posts: 5361
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:11 pm
- Location: central NY State
Intermittent/stopped Spark Testing method with 12vdc test light
Fred Camper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 20, 2025 9:17 am Seems like ignition to me. I had an aftermarket (Dyna) ignition in my bike that would drop two cylinders once in a while.
When the engine is running, correctly, individually probe at both test points.
**note: low watts = an old school incandescent small flashlight bulb

When both test points present a steadily flashing light in synchronization with their individual coil's spark plugs, its good.

If the running engine suddenly/seemingly loses spark, probe both test points, again.
Find one NOT flashing... that is the typical example of a mysterious Dyna S' ground path switching Module failure.
Its 2 individual Modules each performs an "Electronic" simulation of a contact breaker points function.
*
Remedy? a dyna s clone is available on ebay. (search for DS1-3) less than $45
* *
AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE TESTER FLASHES AS THE CRANKSHAFT IS SPINNING
* *
last frame of the video
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Cliff
)
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT
Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM
https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.

Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.

New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^

RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi

"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing

"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT

Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM

previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.