next project - Valkyrie or SilverWing?

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Re: next project - Valkyrie or SilverWing?

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dontwantapickle wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:28 pm
toomanybikes wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:02 am I did start the engine 2-3 times to try and blow the residue out of the pipes. Probably not a good thing now that I realize the gas had seeped into the oil, but they were only ~5 minute sessions at 1-2k rpm so hopefully no damage was done.
Just call it an engine flush and move on. :)

On mine, the petcock failed, Oil on the gas. I just replaced it, no engine damage done.
(I think Pingle makes a non vaccuum petcock).

Another thing that happened with my Valk was just flooding.
Turns out that the floats are non adjustable and the pressure to shut off the fuel getting into the bowls is controlled
by those little spring pins in the float needles.

After just over 100,000 miles. the little springs were worn out and I had to replace all 6 float needles.
Probably not your issue at this time but something to keep in mind.

If yo do pull the carbs, get rid of that smog stuff. you don't need it, those vaccuum lines will crack and start sucking in air.
Yup, fresh oil and filter and all seems well. Starts right up, idles smoothly, good throttle response. The RH pipes are still smoking a little, hopefully just burning off the final residue.

I'm just using a small aux tank, so the pressure is low (very little height diff) on the valves and the petcock is not involved in the process. I may switch to a pingle just to be sure. I hate the vacuum drive systems. Mine still says ON, OFF, RES, but also has a vacuum port on teh back, so I assume it is vacuum controlled.

Ideally I'd go for a ride to burn off the last residue, but the rear tire is hilariously worn.
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Re: next project - Valkyrie or SilverWing?

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It's good that the engine isn't hurt. action1 dancr crossy.gif party2 anim-cheers1
That tire says a lot about the previous owner.
Valks are very durable machines, I'm sure that you are going to enjoy it.
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Bike looks awesome! Not at all jealous ;)
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Gorgeous bike.
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Some minor updates along the way ...
- New non-vacuum petcock on the way
- new rear tire now mounted
- rear brake pads were toast, but I have a spare set on hand
- compression all at 135 +/- 5 psi. four are 135, one @ 130, one @ 140
- new timing belts going on this morning

Still need to check valve clearances, de-crud the tank, service/install the rear brake, and check the front brakes.
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Have you been able to identify the oil leak point? Good progress, but not so sure on the non-vacuum petcock as my manual usage has not been steller.
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So, I can't help much, but a quick Google search brought up something about a bad PCV valve can sometimes suck up oil from the crankcase and dump it into the cylinders. I don't know enough about how the PCV valve works to know if this is right or not, but the leak being a gasket issue seems odd to me. You'd think one side would fail before the other, rather than both at once.

But, like I said, tough to say.
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I'd be interested in knowing where the leak was.
Whether too much oil or a mix of gas and oil, over full crankcases do cause leaks.
Possibly the fresh oil change with the correct amount will stop the leaking.

Stuck pcv valve will overpressure the crankcase and cause leaks too.

Other than that, it would be a faulty gasket or seal.
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More on the leak ...
The initial "leak" turned out to be clearly gas mixed into the oil. Too much volume and it had to go somewhere.

Once I've gotten beyond the initial volume and having done three 5-10 minute idling sessions, there is still persistent oil misting out both exhaust drain ports and white-ish smoke that grows after a few minutes of idling. Initially, there's no smoke, but it's constant once the bike warms up. The coolant volume in the expansion tank has remained constant, so I don't think it's a coolant leak.

The seller mentioned his mechanic said it might be the PCV valve, but I haven't investigated that yet. The consensus from other Valk forums suggest a 45min-1hour "burn it out" ride, which I'll try once I get the rest of the bike roadworthy. I did the belts yesterday and still need to do:
- valve clearances
- overhaul/update brakes
- clean out the gas tank crud
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Does not seem like a head gasket or such. Agree on the ride it and burn it out method as idle will take a very long time. Certainly add a PVC inspection and possible valve replacement to your list.
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Fred Camper wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 9:17 am Does not seem like a head gasket or such. Agree on the ride it and burn it out method as idle will take a very long time. Certainly add a PVC inspection and possible valve replacement to your list.
I assume you mean valve seal replacement, which is on my list. Burn out ride first.
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toomanybikes wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 5:11 am
Fred Camper wrote: Fri Mar 21, 2025 9:17 am Does not seem like a head gasket or such. Agree on the ride it and burn it out method as idle will take a very long time. Certainly add a PVC inspection and possible valve replacement to your list.
I assume you mean valve seal replacement, which is on my list. Burn out ride first.
I figure he meant PCV valve replacement.
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Robin speaks Fred Camper well, Positive Crankcase ventilation valve replacement.
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got it. BTW, do you think the burn out ride will get oil out of the engine, residue from the pipes, or both? Asking because I picked up a cleaner set of pipes yesterday. Not show bike perfect, but very clean.
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A good long ride on a warm day should clean out the pipes …

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