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You can use any oil with the JASO specification or a 4-cycle motorcycle oil. If you select a non-motorcycle oil, look on the container for JASO.
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Everything re: JASO oil specifications

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JASO MA = 4-stroke, wet clutch motorcycle engine
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gltriker wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:33 pm Everything re: JASO oil specifications

viewtopic.php?t=77117

JASO MA = 4-stroke, wet clutch motorcycle engine
thanks gltrike, for this oil specification table, always very interesting! I knew which oil to use in the ie GL, what amazed me, what scared me was hearing the mechanics at the Honda dealership who didn't know which oil to use!! How can you trust these mechanics??
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It might help to remove the inspection cover behind the oil filler. Lots of places to go clack clack in there. I was wondering if the output shaft could be causing it. It would be worth a look before a full tear down.
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good morning everyone, I found an old mechanic who was willing to dismantle the engine of my LTD, and was asking me if it is possible to replace the complete shaft code 13410-371-000 which has the 12 rubber pads, with that of the GL 1100 which has springs, certainly more robust and long-lasting.
and if the slider with the chain tensioner of the later version can be mounted on the 1976 engine.
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As far as I am aware, all the 1100 models still had the rubber dampers; that wasn't changed until the 1200 came in.
I don't know if the 1200 version will fit, although it wouldn't surprise me if it did.
You can fit the sprung chain tensioner from all the four cylinder models from 78, but you can't fit the slider block from the 1200 as it is too thick.
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Old Fogey wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 7:15 am As far as I am aware, all the 1100 models still had the rubber dampers; that wasn't changed until the 1200 came in.
I don't know if the 1200 version will fit, although it wouldn't surprise me if it did.
You can fit the sprung chain tensioner from all the four cylinder models from 78, but you can't fit the slider block from the 1200 as it is too thick.
https://www.wingovations.com/fittingasprungprimarychain
Thank you very much for these clear clarifications and descriptions, now we know how to proceed.
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Hello everyone, I'm still at sea with the engine of my LTD, the fault that caused the loud noise was identified in the excessive play of the shaft generator. I wanted to know if it is possible to install the one on the 1100, which I found at a good price, and if it is serviceable unlike the one on the LTD which is sealed.
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or can the Generator Shaft of the 1200 which I saw from the part list which has springs instead of the rubber pads which are unobtainable, be installed in the LTD engine??
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What is the part number of what you need? I just threw away 2 engines but I am sure someone on here has a scrap one laying around they could pull it from.
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I found the rubber buffers needed to fix her problem and sent the link.
Trying to find a good used unit is a gamble; there is no way of telling what the rubbers are like without dismantling the unit.

It would be interesting and useful if someone with a stash of parts could try the 1200 unit in a 1000/1100 case. The mesh between the crank gear and the shock absorber gear might be a problem, apart from anything else.
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Whiskerfish wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:09 am What is the part number of what you need? I just threw away 2 engines but I am sure someone on here has a scrap one laying around they could pull it from.
This is the complete generator shaft, I really thank you for your availability, but I would prefer to find it in Europe as from the USA the shipping costs and customs duties are a massacre. For the three oil pipes of a three-cylinder Kawasaki, paid 80 dollars, I spent 46 dollars on shipping and 61 dollars on customs duty!!!
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Old Fogey wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:18 pm I found the rubber buffers needed to fix her problem and sent the link.
Trying to find a good used unit is a gamble; there is no way of telling what the rubbers are like without dismantling the unit.

It would be interesting and useful if someone with a stash of parts could try the 1200 unit in a 1000/1100 case. The mesh between the crank gear and the shock absorber gear might be a problem, apart from anything else.
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Any Portuguese speakers here?
I just came across this. I don't know if these are NOS or if they are maybe producing them That would be VERY interesting if so!
https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB ... 71-000-_JM
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