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Maybe I'll call it Threedom
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- gltriker
- Honored Life Member
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- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:11 pm
- Location: central NY State
Consolidating links to my contributions from other folks Topics
I have stuff scattered in the Forum that I had composed/contributed/occasionally deleted in other folks Topics that I just don't want to lose track of
--pressure testing carburetors
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viewtopic.php?p=815867#p815867
viewtopic.php?p=815878#p815878
viewtopic.php?p=815973#p815973
viewtopic.php?p=815981#p815981
viewtopic.php?p=815982#p815982
FLOAT VALVE SET # and possible ebay source
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 82#p815982
-' New Tool for Float Bowl Level Verification ' ( cfairweather )
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 39#p823739
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 45#p823745
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75674
-one carb not getting fuel [gl1000]
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 70#p820470
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 08#p820508
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 17#p826017
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 27#p826027
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 70#p820470
-oem GL1000 Fuel pump Disassembled to understand how it can be damaged, internally
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 40#p826540
-Whiskerfish' Fuel Pump Testing topic
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 19#p453019
-cylinder compression testing equipment etc.
viewtopic.php?p=803393#p803393
and
viewtopic.php?p=803584#p803584
-Breaking down the horizontally opposed cylinders' GL1000 engine design
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 15#p560515
-Little or no heat in single and/or multiples cylinder exhaust header tubes with engine running at idle speed
viewtopic.php?p=442028#p442028
--pressure testing carburetors
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viewtopic.php?p=815867#p815867
viewtopic.php?p=815878#p815878
viewtopic.php?p=815973#p815973
viewtopic.php?p=815981#p815981
viewtopic.php?p=815982#p815982
FLOAT VALVE SET # and possible ebay source
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 82#p815982
-' New Tool for Float Bowl Level Verification ' ( cfairweather )
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 39#p823739
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 45#p823745
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75674
-one carb not getting fuel [gl1000]
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 70#p820470
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 08#p820508
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 17#p826017
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 27#p826027
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 70#p820470
-oem GL1000 Fuel pump Disassembled to understand how it can be damaged, internally
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 40#p826540
-Whiskerfish' Fuel Pump Testing topic
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 19#p453019
-cylinder compression testing equipment etc.
viewtopic.php?p=803393#p803393
and
viewtopic.php?p=803584#p803584
-Breaking down the horizontally opposed cylinders' GL1000 engine design
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 15#p560515
-Little or no heat in single and/or multiples cylinder exhaust header tubes with engine running at idle speed
viewtopic.php?p=442028#p442028
Last edited by gltriker on Mon Dec 02, 2024 6:41 pm, edited 17 times in total.
Cliff )
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
- Fred Camper
- Vice President
- Posts: 7105
- Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:38 pm
- My Album: http://www.ngwclub.com/gallery/v/wingmans/Jeff+Bozeman/
- Location: Metro Detroit
- Contact:
Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom
We do love all your posts Cliff, you are wealth of posts.
Proud member of the NGW Cartel (Rochester MI)
1977 GL1000 BADDOG (April 2012 BOTM)
1976 LTD - '993 LTD...and so it begins'
You should remember that it's peace of mind you're after and not just fixing the machine. R.Pirsig
1977 GL1000 BADDOG (April 2012 BOTM)
1976 LTD - '993 LTD...and so it begins'
You should remember that it's peace of mind you're after and not just fixing the machine. R.Pirsig
- gltriker
- Honored Life Member
- Posts: 5220
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:11 pm
- Location: central NY State
Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom
Thanks, Jeff-
Cliff )
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
- gltriker
- Honored Life Member
- Posts: 5220
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:11 pm
- Location: central NY State
My pressure testing air pump and cfairweather's New Tool for Float Bowl Level Verification work very well together. Peri
POST#394
Here we go... I've heard the universally practiced methods to gravity pressure liquid leak test an assembled carburetor rack Works Very Well for thoroughly knowledgeable and Complete carburetor repairs.
I'm different, have only one complete set of GL carburetors and am satisfied the system I am presenting here answers my need for information re: individual carburetor float bowl fluid level verification and pressure testing the fuel inlet circuits, all at the same time.
I see no practical purpose for a hand operated vacuum pump when I check a pressurized delivery, float valve needle regulated liquid supply circuit. ( no, I don't care )
anyways--
I've already posted my Positive review and several photos of Cedric's latest design, in use, in his informational Topic. when? 3/15/'24 -- photos on page2
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 39#p823739
At that time, I stated (Cedric) cfairweather's New Tool(s) and my thumb operated air pressure pump would work well together
-I went back to the carburetors *rack* testing bench (tailgate) April 9th to photograph the combined usefulness of Cedric's float bowl fluid level verification fittings and my thumb operated pressure testing air pump assembly., together.
- -
-I had un-intentionally rapidly released 25psi air pressure during a carburetors' leakage testing session at least one year ago and the gauge needle dinged the 0psi stop. okay. Just live with it. No re-adjustment possible.
-
-
After completely filling the float bowls (see the isopropyl levels in the transparent tubes) through a funnel and hose attached to the *rack* inlet hose barb fitting, the funnel is removed from that same supply hose and the pressure testing air pump was installed and directly exerting fluid contact pressure against all the rubber sealing components (plenum and 4 carburetor flange seals) and all 4 float valve set needles and seats. I pressurized the wet fuel supply circuits above the 15psi reading you see on the gauge face. Corrected, the pressure gauge face needle reading is 10psi. It held there. Carburetors 3 and 1 are shown in this photograph.
- -
My pressure tester hose wasn't long enough to allow the pressure gauge face to be repositioned towards the camera when photographing the numbers 2 and 4 carburetors view.
After a lot of manipulation with 'Paint' I was finally successful to superimpose the unchanged -- during *rack* 180 degree repositioning -- pressure gauge face needle reading onto this next photograph.
- -
-
I found it interesting that if I hand pumped air pressure against the isopropyl alcohol contents in the assembled carburetors rack in its normal upright orientation, above 10psi, the gauge face display would intermittently indicate pressure leakage was occuring somewhere in the pressurized liquid supply circuit. Most times silent...a subdued pip might be audible in a few cases. hmmmmmm??? I couldn't see any witness of isopropyl leaking into the plenum, nor the carburetor throats exposed vacuum piston bores to look down directly into the primary and secondary main fuel jet emulsion tubes. The isopropyl float bowl fluid level in all 4 verification tubes never budged.
double hmmmmmmm???
After a few minutes, I wondered if my pressure testing air pump set-up was involved. Flipping the *rack* upside down to allow the cantilevered weight of all 4 float assemblys onto their respective float valve set needle pin, I found none of them yielded to 20+ psi air pressure. The pressure gauge steadily remained at the highest achieved air pump pressure reading.
I returned the *rack* to its normal upright orientation and retested the float bowl fluid levels and pressurized resistance to fluid leaks again with isopropyl test fluid. Same verifiable results.
That's it . Got nothing else to say about my presentation. Long winded? Definitely, but this is MY thread.
Done.
Here we go... I've heard the universally practiced methods to gravity pressure liquid leak test an assembled carburetor rack Works Very Well for thoroughly knowledgeable and Complete carburetor repairs.
I'm different, have only one complete set of GL carburetors and am satisfied the system I am presenting here answers my need for information re: individual carburetor float bowl fluid level verification and pressure testing the fuel inlet circuits, all at the same time.
I see no practical purpose for a hand operated vacuum pump when I check a pressurized delivery, float valve needle regulated liquid supply circuit. ( no, I don't care )
anyways--
I've already posted my Positive review and several photos of Cedric's latest design, in use, in his informational Topic. when? 3/15/'24 -- photos on page2
https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 39#p823739
At that time, I stated (Cedric) cfairweather's New Tool(s) and my thumb operated air pressure pump would work well together
-
-I went back to the carburetors *rack* testing bench (tailgate) April 9th to photograph the combined usefulness of Cedric's float bowl fluid level verification fittings and my thumb operated pressure testing air pump assembly., together.
- -
-I had un-intentionally rapidly released 25psi air pressure during a carburetors' leakage testing session at least one year ago and the gauge needle dinged the 0psi stop. okay. Just live with it. No re-adjustment possible.
-
-
After completely filling the float bowls (see the isopropyl levels in the transparent tubes) through a funnel and hose attached to the *rack* inlet hose barb fitting, the funnel is removed from that same supply hose and the pressure testing air pump was installed and directly exerting fluid contact pressure against all the rubber sealing components (plenum and 4 carburetor flange seals) and all 4 float valve set needles and seats. I pressurized the wet fuel supply circuits above the 15psi reading you see on the gauge face. Corrected, the pressure gauge face needle reading is 10psi. It held there. Carburetors 3 and 1 are shown in this photograph.
- -
My pressure tester hose wasn't long enough to allow the pressure gauge face to be repositioned towards the camera when photographing the numbers 2 and 4 carburetors view.
After a lot of manipulation with 'Paint' I was finally successful to superimpose the unchanged -- during *rack* 180 degree repositioning -- pressure gauge face needle reading onto this next photograph.
- -
-
I found it interesting that if I hand pumped air pressure against the isopropyl alcohol contents in the assembled carburetors rack in its normal upright orientation, above 10psi, the gauge face display would intermittently indicate pressure leakage was occuring somewhere in the pressurized liquid supply circuit. Most times silent...a subdued pip might be audible in a few cases. hmmmmmm??? I couldn't see any witness of isopropyl leaking into the plenum, nor the carburetor throats exposed vacuum piston bores to look down directly into the primary and secondary main fuel jet emulsion tubes. The isopropyl float bowl fluid level in all 4 verification tubes never budged.
double hmmmmmmm???
After a few minutes, I wondered if my pressure testing air pump set-up was involved. Flipping the *rack* upside down to allow the cantilevered weight of all 4 float assemblys onto their respective float valve set needle pin, I found none of them yielded to 20+ psi air pressure. The pressure gauge steadily remained at the highest achieved air pump pressure reading.
I returned the *rack* to its normal upright orientation and retested the float bowl fluid levels and pressurized resistance to fluid leaks again with isopropyl test fluid. Same verifiable results.
That's it . Got nothing else to say about my presentation. Long winded? Definitely, but this is MY thread.
Done.
Last edited by gltriker on Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:26 am, edited 4 times in total.
Cliff )
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
- Fred Camper
- Vice President
- Posts: 7105
- Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:38 pm
- My Album: http://www.ngwclub.com/gallery/v/wingmans/Jeff+Bozeman/
- Location: Metro Detroit
- Contact:
Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom
Nice to have a mystery to ponder...
Proud member of the NGW Cartel (Rochester MI)
1977 GL1000 BADDOG (April 2012 BOTM)
1976 LTD - '993 LTD...and so it begins'
You should remember that it's peace of mind you're after and not just fixing the machine. R.Pirsig
1977 GL1000 BADDOG (April 2012 BOTM)
1976 LTD - '993 LTD...and so it begins'
You should remember that it's peace of mind you're after and not just fixing the machine. R.Pirsig
- gltriker
- Honored Life Member
- Posts: 5220
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:11 pm
- Location: central NY State
My expectations...use diagnostic tools in concert
noooooooo, Jeff, I'm quite satisfied my verifications method leaves no mysteries to ponder.
My expectation would be that - as Dirty Dave did last year - by simply (Very Creatively !!) re-purposing a turkey baster bulb for the system pressurizing task, stop fretting/wringing one's hands/etc., to isolate the exact location/s and cause/ s of gasoline leakage in their problematic carburetor *rack* .
a $30 or less pressure tester air pump is a very good tool investment.
viewtopic.php?t=78012
---POST#10
My expectation would be that - as Dirty Dave did last year - by simply (Very Creatively !!) re-purposing a turkey baster bulb for the system pressurizing task, stop fretting/wringing one's hands/etc., to isolate the exact location/s and cause/ s of gasoline leakage in their problematic carburetor *rack* .
a $30 or less pressure tester air pump is a very good tool investment.
viewtopic.php?t=78012
---POST#10
Last edited by gltriker on Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:43 am, edited 2 times in total.
Cliff )
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
- gltriker
- Honored Life Member
- Posts: 5220
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:11 pm
- Location: central NY State
Re: My 1975 GL1000 "trike" was injured in a gasoline fire continued, again!
I finally got back in earnest to the rebuild of the fire damaged motorcycle.
Please, go back to Post#385 and find 4 new photos dated 6/13.2024 now reside there, too.
https://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic ... 72#p821172
I had stated :
Pulling the engine is a big job for this old dude to perform.
After removing both exhaust headers and the fuel tank I resigned myself pulling the engine is necessary, too. *
I was very surprised the gasoline fire left very little witness of the event underneath on the concrete floor. Even though I may never ride again, it's difficult to even consider entirely quitting on this bike. My bike
Ciao for now !
Please, go back to Post#385 and find 4 new photos dated 6/13.2024 now reside there, too.
https://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic ... 72#p821172
I had stated :
Pulling the engine is a big job for this old dude to perform.
After removing both exhaust headers and the fuel tank I resigned myself pulling the engine is necessary, too. *
I was very surprised the gasoline fire left very little witness of the event underneath on the concrete floor. Even though I may never ride again, it's difficult to even consider entirely quitting on this bike. My bike
Ciao for now !
Cliff )
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
- Track T 2411
- Honored Life Member
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- Joined: Thu May 29, 2008 9:37 pm
- My Album: http://www.ngwclub.com/gallery/v/wingmans/Track+T+2411/
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Re: My 1975 GL1000 "trike" was injured in a gasoline fire continued, again!
Hang in there! One never knows what the future may hold in store for you. If I were closer, I'd gladly offer a hand... but I am sending positive 'vibes' your way!
"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
- gltriker
- Honored Life Member
- Posts: 5220
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:11 pm
- Location: central NY State
Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom
Track T 2411 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:37 pm
Hang in there! One never knows what the future may hold in store for you. If I were closer, I'd gladly offer a hand... but I am sending positive 'vibes' your way!
Thanks for your thoughtful encouragement, Todd
Cliff )
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
- gltriker
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Things discovered that make you say hmmmm
As I go forward with this rebuild after the fire, I find things...
during the 10/06/2023 fire, the fuel valve flag lever was sitting positioned to pointing straight up to Reserve.
I moved the flag to this position several weeks later, just to see if it would still move. Surprisingly, it moved smoothly.
*
I believe this passage connects to the Reserve pickup pipe. ( updated information: Yes, that's correct.
* *
Disassembly reveals the rubber gasoline flow valving disc was compromised, too.
Other than having been discolored with carbon, the metal components of the fuel valve are not injured.
* * * I had purchased an extra randakk ' Petcock - Rebuild Kit - Viton ' several years ago, eventually located the Kit and reassembled the now internally clean petcock valve with the new Viton rubber components.
during the 10/06/2023 fire, the fuel valve flag lever was sitting positioned to pointing straight up to Reserve.
I moved the flag to this position several weeks later, just to see if it would still move. Surprisingly, it moved smoothly.
*
I believe this passage connects to the Reserve pickup pipe. ( updated information: Yes, that's correct.
* *
Disassembly reveals the rubber gasoline flow valving disc was compromised, too.
Other than having been discolored with carbon, the metal components of the fuel valve are not injured.
* * * I had purchased an extra randakk ' Petcock - Rebuild Kit - Viton ' several years ago, eventually located the Kit and reassembled the now internally clean petcock valve with the new Viton rubber components.
Last edited by gltriker on Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
Cliff )
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
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^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
- Fred Camper
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Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom
One step at a time, excellent.This is artwork rather than just getting her running. Threedom can be a great bike once again. No big rush, just STEADY progress like you have planned. Love your posts Cliff.
Proud member of the NGW Cartel (Rochester MI)
1977 GL1000 BADDOG (April 2012 BOTM)
1976 LTD - '993 LTD...and so it begins'
You should remember that it's peace of mind you're after and not just fixing the machine. R.Pirsig
1977 GL1000 BADDOG (April 2012 BOTM)
1976 LTD - '993 LTD...and so it begins'
You should remember that it's peace of mind you're after and not just fixing the machine. R.Pirsig
- gltriker
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Examined the fuel tank's inner POR-15 coating post fire condition
Thanks Jeff
I borrowed a son-a-mine's Milwaukee inspection scope and tried to examine trike's fuel tank POR-15 coating (applied 2012) post condition.
I struggled to process/orient myself exactly where inside the tank I was glancingly looking at .
I found several spots nearest the external proximity of the fuel pump barbecue.
Several moments I would observe a bubble in the POR-15 that looked a bit similar to the small fluid filled blisters on the left side of my forehead after the event.
Although the inspection scope did not have a record feature , I was somewhat successful to photograph through the filler neck with my cell phone.
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*
*
newly coated, 11 years before the fire -
I borrowed a son-a-mine's Milwaukee inspection scope and tried to examine trike's fuel tank POR-15 coating (applied 2012) post condition.
I struggled to process/orient myself exactly where inside the tank I was glancingly looking at .
I found several spots nearest the external proximity of the fuel pump barbecue.
Several moments I would observe a bubble in the POR-15 that looked a bit similar to the small fluid filled blisters on the left side of my forehead after the event.
Although the inspection scope did not have a record feature , I was somewhat successful to photograph through the filler neck with my cell phone.
*
*
*
newly coated, 11 years before the fire -
Last edited by gltriker on Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:57 pm, edited 4 times in total.
Cliff )
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
- gltriker
- Honored Life Member
- Posts: 5220
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:11 pm
- Location: central NY State
Fuel tank POR-15 coating wasn't significantly injured
A thorough cleanup and repaint of the tank outside and refurbish of the petcock will put that section of fuel supply back to good health again.
Last edited by gltriker on Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
Cliff )
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
- Fred Camper
- Vice President
- Posts: 7105
- Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:38 pm
- My Album: http://www.ngwclub.com/gallery/v/wingmans/Jeff+Bozeman/
- Location: Metro Detroit
- Contact:
Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom
As long as you do not see flakes of the stuff, seems like it may very well be serviceable once again.
Proud member of the NGW Cartel (Rochester MI)
1977 GL1000 BADDOG (April 2012 BOTM)
1976 LTD - '993 LTD...and so it begins'
You should remember that it's peace of mind you're after and not just fixing the machine. R.Pirsig
1977 GL1000 BADDOG (April 2012 BOTM)
1976 LTD - '993 LTD...and so it begins'
You should remember that it's peace of mind you're after and not just fixing the machine. R.Pirsig
- gltriker
- Honored Life Member
- Posts: 5220
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:11 pm
- Location: central NY State
Trepidation weighs heavy re: water that entered all 4 cyĺinders when October 6th fire was extinguished
I Agree with your assessment, Jeff
Finally, here's Cranking Compression test results performed with a new battery after I worried for many months, that all 4 cylinders' combustion chamber components may not have been spared water intrusion injuries from the fire extinguishing water hose spray that had entered their wide opened intake ports and spark plug holes.
* ** **
Cylinders 1, 2 and 3 Cranking cylinder compression test results were relatively similar when I compared them to this testing sessions results post: note Cylinder #2 compression test result has always been 10-ish psi greater than #s 1, 3 and 4.
viewtopic.php?p=810816#p810816
a historically low Cylinder # 4 test result has yet to be determined why it is 15-ish psi lower than when tested in the above link ( 155psi vs 170psi)
A cylinder pressure leakdown rate test session will be utilized next. I have suspicions a rusty goober I spotted with the borescope on the lowest edge of one of 4 pistons was located in this cylinder...
Here's the individual cylinder leakdown rate test numbers I had recorded for this engine, August, 2022
viewtopic.php?p=810585#p810585
Finally, here's Cranking Compression test results performed with a new battery after I worried for many months, that all 4 cylinders' combustion chamber components may not have been spared water intrusion injuries from the fire extinguishing water hose spray that had entered their wide opened intake ports and spark plug holes.
* ** **
Cylinders 1, 2 and 3 Cranking cylinder compression test results were relatively similar when I compared them to this testing sessions results post: note Cylinder #2 compression test result has always been 10-ish psi greater than #s 1, 3 and 4.
viewtopic.php?p=810816#p810816
a historically low Cylinder # 4 test result has yet to be determined why it is 15-ish psi lower than when tested in the above link ( 155psi vs 170psi)
A cylinder pressure leakdown rate test session will be utilized next. I have suspicions a rusty goober I spotted with the borescope on the lowest edge of one of 4 pistons was located in this cylinder...
Here's the individual cylinder leakdown rate test numbers I had recorded for this engine, August, 2022
viewtopic.php?p=810585#p810585
Last edited by gltriker on Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:18 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Cliff )
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
Keep your eyes and ears open and you'll learn something new, everyday.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help: <---jdvorchak
http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
^^^^^^^click up here^^^^^
RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
Cliff
'75 GL1000 home built trike; http://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=39996
October,2017 BOTM https://nakedgoldwingsclub.com/forum/page/Welcome
previous rides:
1953 H-D Servi-car, naked, 1969-1978 (serial#53G1559 committed to memory!)
1980 CB900 Custom (triked) 1997-2003 .... R.I.P.
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