1977 barn find
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Re: 1977 barn find
Look great. I am considering paint on "red belly" covers instead of polish. On one build I had them powder coated and that worked well also.
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83 XL 600r with a 2004 XR650L engine
And a slightly worse for the wear BMW GS adventure bike awaiting repair
83 GL in process
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Re: 1977 barn find
Since it's apart, and maybe you have a dremel tool, then maybe you can get rid of the casting flash in the intake and exhaust ports. I'm not saying to polish the ports but you can certainly clean them up. Like chicken soup for a cold ...it can't hurt. Regarding actual polishing of the ports I will defer to Robin.
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1978 GL1000 (White Trash - 2012 BOTY
(If you want to discuss the Trashmobile, Webers, Rearsets, Clubmans, or other stuff then send me a PM.)
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Re: 1977 barn find
Greg you are psychic, When I had the heads off and apart I used my dremel to get rid of some casting flash inside the ports. I didn't really polish them just knocked down some of the rough spots. I have the correct year cam on its way so I will be able to use the original tach.
This bike has really been a learning experience and I have definitely learned not to drop a cam on a concrete floor. Monday I will try to get the single carb manifold made and installed.
This bike has really been a learning experience and I have definitely learned not to drop a cam on a concrete floor. Monday I will try to get the single carb manifold made and installed.
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Re: 1977 barn find
And won't help. Honestly it really is just a waste of time. But it makes some feel better.gregforesi wrote:snip...………. Like chicken soup for a cold ...it can't hurt.
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1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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Re: 1977 barn find
polishing ALWAYS helps..... your sense of doing a personal job!
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all it takes for evil to prosper is the want of a few good men to do nothing-Edmund Burke
The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: 1977 barn find
Okay, As some of you know I screwed the pooch a couple of weeks ago and broke my camshaft on my 77. A very generous member here sold me a camshaft and the rockers for almost nothing. I installed them the other day and torqued the bolts to 20 ft lbs. The cam turns but it is tight. I am wondering if I should switch out the rockers into the old blocks to see if that turns easier. I am using some red looking assembly lube I got from autozone so everything is lubed good.
I think I will strip the rockers and shafts out of the old blocks and bolt them up empty to see how it turns.
I know I am putting a camshaft into a different engine but they are both the same year so I am hoping it should work.
With the broken camshaft and the original blocks it turns noticeably easier.
I think I will strip the rockers and shafts out of the old blocks and bolt them up empty to see how it turns.
I know I am putting a camshaft into a different engine but they are both the same year so I am hoping it should work.
With the broken camshaft and the original blocks it turns noticeably easier.
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Re: 1977 barn find
The word from on high is that the cam carriers were line bored at the factory and need to stay matched together if possible. Another cam should work. Is it possible that the carrier assembly from the other side was switched by accidento? I would try swapping them first. The cam is something that isn’t going to bend much.
Others in this predicament have tried 3-4 carriers to find one that allows the cam to spin easily.
Others in this predicament have tried 3-4 carriers to find one that allows the cam to spin easily.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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Re: 1977 barn find
Thank you sir. Good stuff here
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Re: 1977 barn find
Yeah, you should have used the cam holder that was with the original head. They are bored as a set. I have gone through the hassle of trying different holders on one head to get one that "worked". You see heads without holders and holders by themselves for sale all the time. Not a good idea to buy them like that. Kawasaki did the same thing with cam caps and heads. And you see those for sale separate all the time too.
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1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
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Re: 1977 barn find
No problem, It will be easy enough to change everything over. I hope.
I would be lost without the info received on this site. Thank you all very much.
I would be lost without the info received on this site. Thank you all very much.
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Re: 1977 barn find
Got it back together today with the original cam holder and it turns much better.
Set the valves and am piecing it togethet but I am wondering what the common consensus is on this plate. Is it really necessary. I ill be running a single carb so a little heating might be good.
Set the valves and am piecing it togethet but I am wondering what the common consensus is on this plate. Is it really necessary. I ill be running a single carb so a little heating might be good.
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Re: 1977 barn find
I never use them. Never had a problem
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1977 custom with 1200 engine
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Re: 1977 barn find
I removed mine this spring and seems fine without it, even in 40 Celsius weather I haven't noticed any sort of issues. I cut the plate off and reinstalled the mounting brackets on their own, but I did have to replace all the motor mount bolts with shorter ones, the un-threaded portion on the stock ones was too long to allow them to tighten up all the way.
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Re: 1977 barn find
I carved out the center of mine. I do notice the seat is hotter in slow driving.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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Re: 1977 barn find
Started the construction of the intake manifold today. A piece of 2-1/2 inch square tube 7-1/8" long, Layed out and drilled the four holes for the pipes, Milled the opening for the carb base plate and welded the base plate on. Still need to tackweld the tubes to the manifold but that is done on the bike.
After the tubes are welded I will cap off the ends and be done. Might just get this powder coated.
After the tubes are welded I will cap off the ends and be done. Might just get this powder coated.
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