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- HOTT
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Meet Ol' Sparky
Herrrre's Ol' Sparky
The Build Starts Here;
I came across this '83 gem about 6 months ago. My thought was to do it for Sunny's HOT STOVE LEAGUE 2010-2011 2ND ANNUAL and see if I could meet a deadline (my customers would probably tell you no! LOL). It sat in the Cave right where I could see it everyday. So the ideas piled up. The green flag dropped on the Nov. 16th. Here is a quick catch up.
It starts like this; tear down will stop at the motor and forks for now.....
Box O' Stuff. not much will be reused here. I'm hearing the cash registers now.
OK here we go !
Stock rake is somewhere around 26deg. I think we want to be in the 30's. Don't you ?
I used a motorcycle jack with a block of plywood to hold solid and true. By keeping the motor in I can use the weight of the lump to execute the stretch.
1st cut. (this will be the area where the drop of the steer tube will be decided I'll remove 1'' from here later)
2nd &3rd cut. This I did by starting with a cut off wheel on the weld and finishing with recip. (you can see crossbar has also been severed) Are we having fun yet ?
We're just about ready to drop the front end but first a 3/4 cut to the upper stays (this will allow front to drop with the weight of the forks)
after double checking all the cuts for alignment i.e. a sprung or twisted frame I removed 1'' from vertical brace ( cut#1)
By RAISING the jack the head is lowered.
Now, double check alignment and TACK WELD (very important) the vertical brace (#1)
Final Cut. Using a cut off wheel make a V cut only 3/4 thru. just in front of the vertical brace. (I wound up with approx. 3/16'' at top of V)
Now the jack can be lowered to original ground clearance hieght and....
with the welds tacked in place you're now free to roll it around the driveway. She now sets at 32-33deg. with about 4'' of trail and the wheelbase has been extended by 3''. Why??? Because we Can.
I will double check alignment in the shop with my trusty Home Depot laser before final welds are made, but by doing it this way the steer head stays straight. I'll save final welding and connect radiator crossbar when the frame is bare. Right now it's on to the rear suspenders.
I came across this '83 gem about 6 months ago. My thought was to do it for Sunny's HOT STOVE LEAGUE 2010-2011 2ND ANNUAL and see if I could meet a deadline (my customers would probably tell you no! LOL). It sat in the Cave right where I could see it everyday. So the ideas piled up. The green flag dropped on the Nov. 16th. Here is a quick catch up.
It starts like this; tear down will stop at the motor and forks for now.....
Box O' Stuff. not much will be reused here. I'm hearing the cash registers now.
OK here we go !
Stock rake is somewhere around 26deg. I think we want to be in the 30's. Don't you ?
I used a motorcycle jack with a block of plywood to hold solid and true. By keeping the motor in I can use the weight of the lump to execute the stretch.
1st cut. (this will be the area where the drop of the steer tube will be decided I'll remove 1'' from here later)
2nd &3rd cut. This I did by starting with a cut off wheel on the weld and finishing with recip. (you can see crossbar has also been severed) Are we having fun yet ?
We're just about ready to drop the front end but first a 3/4 cut to the upper stays (this will allow front to drop with the weight of the forks)
after double checking all the cuts for alignment i.e. a sprung or twisted frame I removed 1'' from vertical brace ( cut#1)
By RAISING the jack the head is lowered.
Now, double check alignment and TACK WELD (very important) the vertical brace (#1)
Final Cut. Using a cut off wheel make a V cut only 3/4 thru. just in front of the vertical brace. (I wound up with approx. 3/16'' at top of V)
Now the jack can be lowered to original ground clearance hieght and....
with the welds tacked in place you're now free to roll it around the driveway. She now sets at 32-33deg. with about 4'' of trail and the wheelbase has been extended by 3''. Why??? Because we Can.
I will double check alignment in the shop with my trusty Home Depot laser before final welds are made, but by doing it this way the steer head stays straight. I'll save final welding and connect radiator crossbar when the frame is bare. Right now it's on to the rear suspenders.
Last edited by HOTT on Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:40 am, edited 21 times in total.
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- ericheath
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Re: '83 codename HOTT SL
Looks good. Keep taking photos and teach us how.
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77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
- CYBORG
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Re: '83 codename HOTT SL
good way to do it. should track reral good on the highway
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1985 gl1200
- robin1731
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Re: '83 codename HOTT SL
Thats a good way to do it. Similar to the way we do some drag bikes. It will steer a little heavy at slow speeds but like Doug said it should track real good on the highway. The only bad is now it takes a lot more room to turn it around.
You get used to that though real quick. Keep us updated.
You get used to that though real quick. Keep us updated.
1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
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1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
- rogue1000
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Re: '83 codename HOTT SL
Nice way to do it..keep the pics coming!
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1977 gl1000, with California sidecar
"KBO"!! Keep bungling on! Winston Churchill
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Re: '83 codename HOTT SL
having altered the upper frame, have you thought aboout the faux tank/shelter mounting?
1978 custom GL1000
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
1977 custom with 1200 engine
1985 gl1200
- HOTT
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Re: '83 codename HOTT SL
Yep, we used to call it 'kickin' the front end out'. give me 40 acres and I can turn it aroundSimilar to the way we do some drag bikes.
...Like Butta...have you thought about the faux tank/shelter mounting?
Last edited by HOTT on Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- sunnbobb
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Re: '83 codename HOTT SL
Sweet. I'd put a solo seat on it and ride just like that. LOL
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1978 Learning Experience
1980 County Road Hauler "Brain Damage"
1978 Cafe Custom Gl1000 "Vyper"
1977 Bulldog Inspired "Vaincre"
1981 Street Fighter GL1100 "No Quarter"
1983 Supercharged Street Drag "Anubis" (in worx)
1983 gl1100 mint restoration "Kristen"
1985 Aspencade..pondering.
- HOTT
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Re: '83 codename HOTT SL
You and I have the same degree of patience. Work in progress. We'll have to see where it goes.I'd put a solo seat on it and ride just like that.
If we can't fix it, we can fix it so no one else can.
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- ericheath
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Re: '83 codename HOTT SL
Looking forward to hearing how this rides. It looks like it is going to be a sweet looking Wing.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
- frenchfriedwing
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Re: '83 codename HOTT SL
YUMMY!! I like where this is going.
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Re: '83 codename HOTT SL
Sweet. Thanks for the how to demo pics.
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ALL WE WANT TO DO IS DRINK OUR ESPRESSO, RIDE OUR MACHINES, AND NOT BE HASSLED BY THE MAN
Owning a motorcycle is not a matter of life or death. It's much more important than that.
"Don't sweat the little things, guys, take care and appreciate all that you have around you!" - Fewman
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- ericheath
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Re: '83 codename HOTT SL
That is so cool, I keep drooling at it. It would be the same for a 1000 wouldn't it? If I get my welding skills up to snuff, I will have to try this.
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
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