Jim Palmer's GL1100 Standard

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Re: Jim Palmer's GL1100 Standard

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CrazyJerry wrote:It's January - where's all the snow! lolol
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Good deal on the engine - looks like you could eat off it!
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The snow is in the mountains where it belongs. Don't worry, it is going to start raining tomorrow and the forecast says rain until June.

Yes Bob was doing a build and was planning to use the engine. It should slide right in.
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So what was the issue with your original engine requiring a replacement, as you indicated it was sitting for about 10 years and hard to turn over initially? You will at least have a parts engine with your original motor from the bike.
I’m doing the same year of bike too and just waiting for the spring weather to continue on with the build/ refresh.
Current Bikes:

1966 CL77 - Honda 305cc - Dual purpose - "Gentleman's Scrambler" was a period moniker.
1967 CL175K0 - Low production number with #802 engine serial- winter 2019/2020 full restoration.
1972 CB350F - Baby Four with low mileage - Cosmetic refresh to the next level 2021/2022.
1978 CB550K - Very original bike with only 7499 Km. from new - light cleanup and refresh done.
1983 CB1100F - Canadian model - DOHC Supersport in pristine low kilometre condition from new.
1984 GL1200 - Standard model in showroom condition - two owner bike from new.
1984 CX650E - Restored summer 2017 - a rare Eurosport model - excellent one owner bike.
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flyin900 wrote:So what was the issue with your original engine requiring a replacement, as you indicated it was sitting for about 10 years and hard to turn over initially? You will at least have a parts engine with your original motor from the bike.
I’m doing the same year of bike too and just waiting for the spring weather to continue on with the build/ refresh.
I have the heads off of it and the cylinders are rusted. I was going to split the case and hone them, but the new engine is reported to have about 40,000 miles, the PO had painted it and installed a new water pump. It was a good deal and it will take a couple of months off of my project. I may get the original engine overhauled, but time will tell. I've been rebuilding Hondas for about the last nine years or so. Getting this bike done will finish all of the bikes I have. I would like to take a break before starting the next one.
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Day 3 - clean the brake parts for painting and reassembly.

The castings are wire wheeled to strip the paint and cleaned. This video was from last Saturday Jan 26. I got more time on Sunday to wash, mask and paint these parts. I will try to render that video tomorrow.

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Thanks James for the motor info. Not worth it IMO if you have to get into tearing the whole engine apart to refresh, as it
likely becomes a money pit at that point. Used motors are normally a better option vs rebuilding unless it is a highly collectable bike.
Current Bikes:

1966 CL77 - Honda 305cc - Dual purpose - "Gentleman's Scrambler" was a period moniker.
1967 CL175K0 - Low production number with #802 engine serial- winter 2019/2020 full restoration.
1972 CB350F - Baby Four with low mileage - Cosmetic refresh to the next level 2021/2022.
1978 CB550K - Very original bike with only 7499 Km. from new - light cleanup and refresh done.
1983 CB1100F - Canadian model - DOHC Supersport in pristine low kilometre condition from new.
1984 GL1200 - Standard model in showroom condition - two owner bike from new.
1984 CX650E - Restored summer 2017 - a rare Eurosport model - excellent one owner bike.
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Part two of painting the brake parts:

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New GL1100 Honda false tank graphics

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Jim,

I received the Honda logo's from the Thailand supplier a while back and I am happy with the quality. Here is a picture of them under a LCD bulb, so the colour is a little off compared to how they really look. I see he has relisted a new batch and I believe you have saved his EBay store listing.
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Current Bikes:

1966 CL77 - Honda 305cc - Dual purpose - "Gentleman's Scrambler" was a period moniker.
1967 CL175K0 - Low production number with #802 engine serial- winter 2019/2020 full restoration.
1972 CB350F - Baby Four with low mileage - Cosmetic refresh to the next level 2021/2022.
1978 CB550K - Very original bike with only 7499 Km. from new - light cleanup and refresh done.
1983 CB1100F - Canadian model - DOHC Supersport in pristine low kilometre condition from new.
1984 GL1200 - Standard model in showroom condition - two owner bike from new.
1984 CX650E - Restored summer 2017 - a rare Eurosport model - excellent one owner bike.
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Fly'in,
Thanks for posting your photo. I saw those emblems in your thread. I like them and when I get to that point in the build I will need to go after them. If things go well I should have three good running bikes by summer. The down side is all of them are going to need paint jobs. More to do and more to learn.
"If everything is under control you are not going fast enough" - Mairo Andretti

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'72 CB450
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Here is the video of day 5 of the brake restoration. Question; I found a set of brake pads in my garage. Lord only knows when I bought them. They look OK, semi-metallic. There are six, two are thicker than the other four. do the thick ones go on the rear?

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Nice work Jim.
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Was hoping someone would grab a pair of those Honda emblems and give them a thumbs up or down. They look pretty decent Jim!!
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JamesPal wrote:
CrazyJerry wrote:It's January - where's all the snow! lolol
-
Good deal on the engine - looks like you could eat off it!
-
~CrazyJerry~
The snow is in the mountains where it belongs. Don't worry, it is going to start raining tomorrow and the forecast says rain until June.

Yes Bob was doing a build and was planning to use the engine. It should slide right in.
So the snow came a little lower, It has been snowing since Friday.
Jim's house Feb 9, 2019
Jim's house Feb 9, 2019
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Nothing to report this week. Waiting for parts.

Those emblems look nice. I'm not quite to the point of buying parts to make it look pretty. They are on the watch list. I'm hoping to have three nice running bikes by the end of spring. The other two look good in the pictures, but I think all three need paint. Something new to learn.
"If everything is under control you are not going fast enough" - Mairo Andretti

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'72 CB450
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Re: Jim Palmer's GL1100 Standard

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JamesPal wrote:
JamesPal wrote:
CrazyJerry wrote:It's January - where's all the snow! lolol
-
Good deal on the engine - looks like you could eat off it!
-
~CrazyJerry~
The snow is in the mountains where it belongs. Don't worry, it is going to start raining tomorrow and the forecast says rain until June.

Yes Bob was doing a build and was planning to use the engine. It should slide right in.
So the snow came a little lower, It has been snowing since Friday.

P2090008.JPG

Nothing to report this week. Waiting for parts.

Those emblems look nice. I'm not quite to the point of buying parts to make it look pretty. They are on the watch list. I'm hoping to have three nice running bikes by the end of spring. The other two look good in the pictures, but I think all three need paint. Something new to learn.
Thanks for the update JamesPal! - That means the snow that has left your area... is now enroute to the northeast... Get out the shovel again - lolol
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Re: Jim Palmer's GL1100 Standard

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Jim,

The brake pads that you questioned in a post previously maybe from two different suppliers. I have never seen a difference in the pads thickness for a front or rear caliper from the same supplier I have dealt with in the past. As long as you can retract the piston and still get the pads into the caliper and fit over the rotor with clearance you should be good to go.
I believe the rear rotor is thicker than the fronts though, so that may not be the best spot for the thicker pads if you do decide to use them.
Current Bikes:

1966 CL77 - Honda 305cc - Dual purpose - "Gentleman's Scrambler" was a period moniker.
1967 CL175K0 - Low production number with #802 engine serial- winter 2019/2020 full restoration.
1972 CB350F - Baby Four with low mileage - Cosmetic refresh to the next level 2021/2022.
1978 CB550K - Very original bike with only 7499 Km. from new - light cleanup and refresh done.
1983 CB1100F - Canadian model - DOHC Supersport in pristine low kilometre condition from new.
1984 GL1200 - Standard model in showroom condition - two owner bike from new.
1984 CX650E - Restored summer 2017 - a rare Eurosport model - excellent one owner bike.
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flyin900 wrote:Jim,

The brake pads that you questioned in a post previously maybe from two different suppliers. I have never seen a difference in the pads thickness for a front or rear caliper from the same supplier I have dealt with in the past. As long as you can retract the piston and still get the pads into the caliper and fit over the rotor with clearance you should be good to go.
I believe the rear rotor is thicker than the fronts though, so that may not be the best spot for the thicker pads if you do decide to use them.
Thanks Flyin, I put the thick ones in the rear. They fit fine. There is a lot of clearance in the fronts. For the life of me I don't remember where I got them. The thick ones looked like there were a few miles on them. The fronts were unused. I may pop for a new set of pads. The rears could be over 20 years old, I doubt if the fronts are over 10.
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