76 LTD Restoration

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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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I'm pretty sure we haven't seen such fine examples of LTD's around here in a while. This thread turned into a 2-fer! Interestingly, JetDr's was a restoration and John's is an original. And both in Metro Phoenix!

Looking forward to seeing (and participating) in JohnnyNumbers' refurb.
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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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Easter wrote:Is your cousin still alive? Hard to imagine he would willingly let that bike go. Lucky you.
Oh yeah, he's alive and well. I just finally wore him down! :-D
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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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desertrefugee wrote:I'm pretty sure we haven't seen such fine examples of LTD's around here in a while. This thread turned into a 2-fer! Interestingly, JetDr's was a restoration and John's is an original. And both in Metro Phoenix!

Looking forward to seeing (and participating) in JohnnyNumbers' refurb.

I'm counting on it!
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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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Welcome to the LTD owners club. Just curious to find out what your serial number is. My LTD is #859 in the sequence.

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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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dbtroudy wrote:Welcome to the LTD owners club. Just curious to find out what your serial number is. My LTD is #859 in the sequence.

Don
I'm assuming the number stamped on the steering head is the serial number. If that's correct then the last three numbers are 871.

I'm attaching a picture of the start of the refresh. I polished the valve covers and replaced the gaskets. I removed the front brake calipers and the front master cylinder today. If I get a chance tomorrow I'll remove the rear brake caliper and master cylinder. Not much to look at but at least it's a start.

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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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I've decided to send the rotors to Hampster to have them drilled (sorry desertrefugee). According to the Honda shop manual there's supposed to be a O ring between the right rotor and the hub and it shows it in the diagram. Of course when I took off the right rotor it wasn't there. I figured no problem, I'll just order another one from someone. I checked with Western Honda, Consolidated Motor Spares and Honda Parts house and their diagrams even don't show an O ring (my shop manual does). So how critical is this O Ring? Can I just find one that's the proper diameter and use it?

The good new is that I found multiple sources for the speedo cable I need to replace!

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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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John, I did a full nut and bolt restoration on a 1976 GL1000 and there was no O ring that I recall on any of the front brake rotors on either side. I do see the part noted in the Honda shop manual and a best guess is it would be inside the hub near the right bearing and not on the outside by the rotor. The fiche only shows the packing item #10 on that side and that is a metal spacer that sits inside the speedo drive gear housing behind the drive gear.
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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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flyin900 wrote:John, I did a full nut and bolt restoration on a 1976 GL1000 and there was no O ring that I recall on any of the front brake rotors on either side. I do see the part noted in the Honda shop manual and a best guess is it would be inside the hub near the right bearing and not on the outside by the rotor. The fiche only shows the packing item #10 on that side and that is a metal spacer that sits inside the speedo drive gear housing behind the drive gear.
Thanks for the info Flyin. I'm not going to worry about the O-Ring, it's time to move forward.
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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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dbtroudy wrote:Welcome to the LTD owners club. Just curious to find out what your serial number is. My LTD is #859 in the sequence.

Don
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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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This Saturday Desert Refugee and I are going to replace the timing belts and remove the carbs. Since I wanted to replace the radiator hoses I removed the radiator to make it a little easier. I removed the timing belt covers tonight and it looks pretty good under the covers. If I hadn't heard it so many times on this forum about replacing the belts, I might tempted to leave the belts alone but I know better than that.

I do have a question though. I'm rebuilding the rear brake caliper and I was able to pop out the brake piston that is on the large section of the rear brake. Unfortunately I'm not having much luck with the smaller piece. There is a brake fluid passage that letting the air escape, so I can't get any pressure behind the piston. I thought about reassembling the caliper but I figure the piston that's already popped out would pop out and block the other one. Any suggestions for the mechanically challenged would be greatly appreciated!
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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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if the seal is still there, place a small piece of wood and clamp it to the seal to close off the leak
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76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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Thanks for the suggestion. The wood didn't seal well enough but a couple pair of nitrile gloves did the trick. Thanks again!
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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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When you change out your timing belts and replace them, make sure you follow Octane's shop talk guide for setting up the belts. page/ST Being off just one tooth on the belt will play havoc with your valves.

Don
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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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Will do. I've reviewed it a few times and Desertrefugee has changed his timing belts a couple of times as well.
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Re: 76 LTD Restoration

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Ok, here's the deal:

I'm gonna go on record here as saying you could search the globe and not find a finer and more pristine, original LTD. This motorcycle is flawless. A survivor of the highest order. I felt privileged to lay hands on the machine today. In fact, I barely even got my hands dirty. THAT'S how nice it is.

Congrats for landing such a fine example, John.
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