1975 GL1000 project, first Goldwing

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Re: 1975 GL1000 project, first Goldwing

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absolutely.... same thing for putting back together. Put the frame on the engine
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Re: 1975 GL1000 project, first Goldwing

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Well the weekend was semi fruitful besides having a few hour set-back due to a water heater element failure that required my attention. She's fully stripped down now and ready for the rebuild.
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I'm leaning more toward a café racer style so ill be looking at de-tabbing and cleaning up the frame then off to paint first off. I'm going to pull the heads and have a look, probably lap the valves etc. Then clean and paint the engine as well.

Since I need to replace the tensioners and pulleys for the timing belts, I put the 79 parts bike I have up on the lift to start harvesting parts. I immediately found some goodies... electronic ignition and upgraded coils so that was a plus.
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1975 Honda Goldwing GL1000 (café project, started Oct 2018)
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Re: 1975 GL1000 project, first Goldwing

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Nice find on the ignition and great to have a parts bike as a backup, since sometimes the used parts can get pricey. Your moving along well on the teardown so far.
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Re: 1975 GL1000 project, first Goldwing

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flyin900 wrote:Nice find on the ignition and great to have a parts bike as a backup, since sometimes the used parts can get pricey. Your moving along well on the teardown so far.
Yes I'm glad I picked up the parts bike. The engine seems to be fine but unfortunately the frame is twisted up and banged up in a couple spots otherwise I would try to fix it up as well.
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Re: 1975 GL1000 project, first Goldwing

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Well after a busy week and weekend, I managed to pick a used engine stand and fabricate an adapter for a GL engine. I degreased and pressure washed the engine and frame. Finally got the stuck rear brake lever off of the pin with a BFH. Tore down the rest of the parts bike and put the useable parts into bins for storage. I left the engine in the frame and kept it as a roller for now as I simply don't have room for storing that engine. Since I now have a usable engine stand, I think I'll take the heads off tonight and have a look see, then replace the pulleys, tensioners and belts.

I managed to get the cam pulleys and tensioners off of the parts bike but I am unsure how the removal of the crank pulley goes since the manual I have (Clymer) has no instructions for that. I'll search around and see if I can find and answer here.
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If I am going to commit and go for the café racer style then I'll need to detab a few things and decide what style of seat I want to do before I can strip and paint the frame. The seat on the parts bike is destroyed but the seat pan is usable so I may use that.
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Re: 1975 GL1000 project, first Goldwing

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I used HF gear puller
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Re: 1975 GL1000 project, first Goldwing

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rcmatt007 wrote:I used HF gear puller
Thanks, I'm going to pick one up today. How does one go about loosening the bolt?
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I was thinking the cam pulleys.... hmmmmm..... maybe robin would know
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"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: 1975 GL1000 project, first Goldwing

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If you put the bike in gear, then put a spanner on the alternator bolt on the back of the engine after removing the small cover, (from the left hand side) you can then undo the bolt at the front at the crankshaft. It is torqued to a high value, can't remember what off the top of my head, so may be stiff, but it is important to to tighten up correctly on reassembly.
You also want to keep movement of the alternator bolt to a minimum. Sure there is a right up in shop talk, but then again, maybe not.

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I would worry the alternator bolt would come loose before the one on the main crank. Maybe an impact driver???
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The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: 1975 GL1000 project, first Goldwing

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I wouldn't use the alternator bolt. I would use an impact wrench for removal and use a torque wrench on final assembly with the bike in gear and the rear wheel held with the brake. I'm sure someone has another way, but I believe that would work.
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Re: 1975 GL1000 project, first Goldwing

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Sounds like I should have tackled this while the bike was still in one piece.
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Re: 1975 GL1000 project, first Goldwing

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No, just use an air impact gun to loosen the crank bolt. Then the pulleys should slide right off. If not you try a gear puller. There are two pulleys with a washer between them.

As for installing the bolt. Off the top of my head I don't remember the torque setting but I doubt it is really that much. I just wrap a rag around the pulley and hold it with some channellock pliers. A strap wrench might work too.

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robin1731 wrote:No, just use an air impact gun to loosen the crank bolt. Then the pulleys should slide right off. If not you try a gear puller. There are two pulleys with a washer between them.

As for installing the bolt. Off the top of my head I don't remember the torque setting but I doubt it is really that much. I just wrap a rag around the pulley and hold it with some channellock pliers. A strap wrench might work too.

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Thanks. I'll give that a try tonight. I assume it would be best to do this with the belts still on in case the crank turns?
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Yeah, just in case. Or remove the cams first. Either way works.

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