Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
No rust on the plugs. They were dry. But the carbs have been off and although the intake holes were covered, the bike was stored in a leaky barn where the cloth coverings could have been wet off and on over the years.
I'll give it until I get the tank cleaned up - another week or so - and this weekend I will add a little atf and acetone to the soup that is already inside.
Further investigation. Number two intake valve is open and number four exhaust valve is open so moisture could have seeped into those two cylinders. I am going to concentrate on those cylinders since the bike was also on the side stand while it was stored.
I'll give it until I get the tank cleaned up - another week or so - and this weekend I will add a little atf and acetone to the soup that is already inside.
Further investigation. Number two intake valve is open and number four exhaust valve is open so moisture could have seeped into those two cylinders. I am going to concentrate on those cylinders since the bike was also on the side stand while it was stored.
M King
1977 GL1000 - Under s l o w restoration
1981 CB900C - Rebuilt but stripped spark plug thread
2002 VTX 1800 -Current Rider
1984 GL1200 Aspencade - Restored and Sold
1980 Suzuki GS850G - Restoration on hold
1985 750 Nighthawk SC - Sold
1976 GL1000 - Yellow - Restored and Sold (regret the sale)
1981 GL1100 - Naked - Restored and Sold
1977 GL1000 - Under s l o w restoration
1981 CB900C - Rebuilt but stripped spark plug thread
2002 VTX 1800 -Current Rider
1984 GL1200 Aspencade - Restored and Sold
1980 Suzuki GS850G - Restoration on hold
1985 750 Nighthawk SC - Sold
1976 GL1000 - Yellow - Restored and Sold (regret the sale)
1981 GL1100 - Naked - Restored and Sold
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
Two starters were dropped off for me as possibles for this bike from the fellow who left it at my place. One had been opened and in fact the brushes and plate were removed. The other doesn't work so I will be opening it and rebuilding it.
I am getting ahead of myself since the engine is still not loose, but I have a question. Someone has pulled the clutch switch wires out of the switch. What does this switch actually do and should this circuit be open or closed if I choose to eliminate it?
I am getting ahead of myself since the engine is still not loose, but I have a question. Someone has pulled the clutch switch wires out of the switch. What does this switch actually do and should this circuit be open or closed if I choose to eliminate it?
M King
1977 GL1000 - Under s l o w restoration
1981 CB900C - Rebuilt but stripped spark plug thread
2002 VTX 1800 -Current Rider
1984 GL1200 Aspencade - Restored and Sold
1980 Suzuki GS850G - Restoration on hold
1985 750 Nighthawk SC - Sold
1976 GL1000 - Yellow - Restored and Sold (regret the sale)
1981 GL1100 - Naked - Restored and Sold
1977 GL1000 - Under s l o w restoration
1981 CB900C - Rebuilt but stripped spark plug thread
2002 VTX 1800 -Current Rider
1984 GL1200 Aspencade - Restored and Sold
1980 Suzuki GS850G - Restoration on hold
1985 750 Nighthawk SC - Sold
1976 GL1000 - Yellow - Restored and Sold (regret the sale)
1981 GL1100 - Naked - Restored and Sold
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
Missed this question when you posted it, sorry. The switch on the clutch lever is one of two safety features (the other is the neutral switch) so the bike can't be started in gear and engaged... I can't remember which way to bypass it, though, sorry.
So have you broken the engine loose yet?
So have you broken the engine loose yet?
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
I beg to differ..RAT wrote:Thumbs don't burn all that well ....
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
To bypass the switch, just jumper (connect) the two wires that go back to the harness together.
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
Mark! You need to replace that compromised clutch switch assembly. No Elimination Allowed!Mark King wrote:Two starters were dropped off for me as possibles for this bike from the fellow who left it at my place. One had been opened and in fact the brushes and plate were removed. The other doesn't work so I will be opening it and rebuilding it.
I am getting ahead of myself since the engine is still not loose, but I have a question. Someone has pulled the clutch switch wires out of the switch. What does this switch actually do and should this circuit be open or closed if I choose to eliminate it?
Think of stalling the engine at a busy intersection, in gear. Remember how difficult it is to find neutral when you need it, immediately?
That clutch lever switch assembly is still available from Honda Parts, easily replaced, and the last time I checked approximately 10 USD.
Although the OEM Honda on-line parts catalog calls it a front stop switch, for our GL1000 application it's a clutch switch assembly.
When you open the catalog, look at the page titled HANDLE LEVER@CABLE@SWITCH and under line item 11 you should find this info.-
011 SWITCH, FR. STOP 35340-329-003 001 $12.89 $9.64
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
Yeah, boy. A man could kill himself inadvertantly hitting the starter with a bike in gear. (Agreed it's an easy fix. But, the question was asked and I answered it).
To me, a sidestand lockout switch is a far more practical safety feature - and didn't show up until the 1500's, I think.
To me, a sidestand lockout switch is a far more practical safety feature - and didn't show up until the 1500's, I think.
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
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"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
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1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
Belated Merry Christmas and all the best for 2018 to everyone. Progress report on this machine. There is no progress. After two and a half months of squirting fluids into the cylinders, it is still not turning over and now with the bitter cold we are having I am going to lay off for a few weeks. Then I think it will be time for a new strategy that involves removing parts. The previous owner, who never turned it over, says be filled the cylinders with oil when he got the bike several years ago. So if it is seized pistons, they must be quite magnificently seized. I am hoping it is something else easy to fix. Stay tuned. Cheers.
M King
1977 GL1000 - Under s l o w restoration
1981 CB900C - Rebuilt but stripped spark plug thread
2002 VTX 1800 -Current Rider
1984 GL1200 Aspencade - Restored and Sold
1980 Suzuki GS850G - Restoration on hold
1985 750 Nighthawk SC - Sold
1976 GL1000 - Yellow - Restored and Sold (regret the sale)
1981 GL1100 - Naked - Restored and Sold
1977 GL1000 - Under s l o w restoration
1981 CB900C - Rebuilt but stripped spark plug thread
2002 VTX 1800 -Current Rider
1984 GL1200 Aspencade - Restored and Sold
1980 Suzuki GS850G - Restoration on hold
1985 750 Nighthawk SC - Sold
1976 GL1000 - Yellow - Restored and Sold (regret the sale)
1981 GL1100 - Naked - Restored and Sold
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
Most likely at this point you will have to pull the heads, probably should anyway. I have had two that were gunked up pretty bad in the number 4 cylinder and the only real solution is to scrape it out and do the best you can to polish the cylinder back into "usable". The valves will almost certainly need to be cleaned up and lapped.
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
Mark everything looks fine on this end. Plz try again
"Agreement is not a requirement for Respect" CDR Michael Smith USN (Ret) 2017
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
Yikes. I think it's time for Krud Kutter & Metal Rescue & PB Blaster & a power washer.
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
Shirking all other responsibilities Sunday I decided to take advantage of the continuing thaw and work on the GoldWing. I dropped it into gear and gently pushed it back and forth trying to get the engine to loosen up. I thought I'd give it a full hour and then start taking it apart to find out why it was stuck. Close to an hour later I thought I saw the belt move a bit and I was getting tired so I backed it deep into the garage, put it in first, and ran it towards the door. I popped the clutch and after a hop and skid it started dumping fluid out of the exhausts and squirted the rest all over the garage through the spark plug holes. I had a mess of ATF to clean up after but a smile on my face. In one of the pics you can see atf between my VTX and the desk where it squirted through the space between the fender and the rad on the VTX. Also splashed some on the windshield of the VTX. So now we go back to the restoration plan. Stripping and cleaning and polishing parts, de-rusting the gas tank, and then the rebuild.
M King
1977 GL1000 - Under s l o w restoration
1981 CB900C - Rebuilt but stripped spark plug thread
2002 VTX 1800 -Current Rider
1984 GL1200 Aspencade - Restored and Sold
1980 Suzuki GS850G - Restoration on hold
1985 750 Nighthawk SC - Sold
1976 GL1000 - Yellow - Restored and Sold (regret the sale)
1981 GL1100 - Naked - Restored and Sold
1977 GL1000 - Under s l o w restoration
1981 CB900C - Rebuilt but stripped spark plug thread
2002 VTX 1800 -Current Rider
1984 GL1200 Aspencade - Restored and Sold
1980 Suzuki GS850G - Restoration on hold
1985 750 Nighthawk SC - Sold
1976 GL1000 - Yellow - Restored and Sold (regret the sale)
1981 GL1100 - Naked - Restored and Sold
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
Looks like a murder scene!
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"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
"The book is wrong, this whole Conclusion is Fallacious" River Tam
"Yea I do dance awkwardly, and I am having more fun than you" Taylor Swift
2008 GL1800 IIIA "TH3DOG"
1984 GL1200 Standard
1975/6/7/8/9 Arthur Fulmer Dressed Road bike
1975 Naked Noisy and Nasty in town bike
Psst. oh and by the way CHANGE YOUR BELTS!!!!
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Re: Sunrise - 1977 GL 1000
Whiskerfish wrote:Looks like a murder scene!
"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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