The 'Humpty Dumpty' refresh, now named 'Grumpy'

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The 'Humpty Dumpty' refresh, now named 'Grumpy'

Post #1 by Track T 2411 » Sun May 15, 2016 1:24 pm

I guess I've been sand bagging a bit. I picked up another '81 1100 the first week in February. It just followed me home, I swear!
The thread is titled 'Humpty Dumpty' both because the bike came to me in pieces, and she's been dropped a couple of times. She started out as a Standard, and a Vetter fairing and bags were added at some point. Here's how she sits today, after lots and lots of cleaning!
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(The pipes are off another bike) There's a lot of catching up to do to get to this point, but I need to pull the carbs while the sun is shining, so the beginning will come later, lol!
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Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
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Re: The 'Humpty Dumpty' refresh.

Post #2 by RAT » Sun May 15, 2016 2:55 pm

Them there are looooooong pipes .....

Lookin' good.

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Post #3 by Track T 2411 » Sun May 15, 2016 5:56 pm

RAT wrote:Them there are looooooong pipes .....

Lookin' good.

Gord

Yes, they certainly are! They were on the '81 Interstate, which had a trailer hitch, etc. They are slip on extensions with butt-ugly muffler clamps holding them on. They do look like they were made to fit the stock exhaust, but I've not seen any others like 'em. They won't be staying on this bike, but they keep the neighbors happy. I can't even get the bike in the shed with them installed unless I angle it across the whole floor (8x8 shed).
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Re: The 'Humpty Dumpty' refresh.

Post #4 by Track T 2411 » Sun May 15, 2016 6:18 pm

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Just a few pics of the bike before I really started digging into it. The leaking valve covers, shifter seal, and weep hole, combined with copious amounts of grit had nearly the entire engine coated with black pasty goo. I ended up using a plastic putty knife to scrape off the first couple of layers.
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"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Re: The 'Humpty Dumpty' refresh.

Post #5 by Track T 2411 » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:56 pm

Gee, maybe I should catch up on this thread a bit...

I kind of like to read the back stories on how we all end up with these bikes, so here's mine. I first heard about this bike back before Christmas. The weather had been unseasonably warm, but winter had finally kicked in, and low temps were approaching single digits. A co-worker whom I run into occasionally said he was glad it was finally getting cold, as he could hardly wait to get out and do some ice fishing.
Now, you have to understand that although I'm a born and bred Wisconsinite, I've probably only wet a line three or four times in my life; you'd never find me sitting on a pail out in the middle of a (supposedly safe) frozen lake with the wind howling all around me, watching a couple of fishing lines disappear into holes in the ice. And I told my co-worker that exact thing...
He laughed and asked what I'd rather be doing. "Riding my motorcycle," I replied, of course. "Or wrenching on it."
"Oh, what kind of bike do you have?"
"An old GoldWing... actually, three old GoldWings, an '82 and two '81's. I'm trying to revive them and get them back on the road."
"Really? I've got an '81," he said. "And you work on them yourself?"
"Yeah..."
"You ever replace a starter? The book says I have to take out the engine..."
And so it began...
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Re: The 'Humpty Dumpty' refresh.

Post #6 by Track T 2411 » Sun Jun 19, 2016 3:53 pm

More of the story...

Turns out my co-worker had removed the starter after having issues, and twisted the side post loose due to extreme corrosion. He got quoted an outrageous amount to rebuild it, and also read the infamous "you have to pull the engine" instructions concerning starter removal/install. He started pulling things apart, then decided he wanted to paint the fairing and plastics, instead. At some point, he lost interest, and the bike sat half disassembled for three or four years.

That day in December, he asked me if I could "take a look at it" and see if I might be able to fix it for him. I didn't want to commit myself, so I told him I'd think about it and let him know after the holidays, and didn't think too much more about it. The last week in January, he asked me again, and we made arrangements for me to stop by and take a look.

I put together a few tools and, just before I left the house, tucked a 'Ben' into my wallet. Needless to say, it did come in handy later!
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Re: The 'Humpty Dumpty' refresh.

Post #7 by Track T 2411 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:34 pm

I've totally neglected this thread, so I'd like to quickly run through the the build, so I at least have a record of it.
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Fresh off the trailer. The pics are dated February 6th, 2016.
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"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Re: The 'Humpty Dumpty' refresh.

Post #8 by Track T 2411 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:35 am

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February 15th. Some shots of the bike's general condition. Looks worse in person, but most everything is there.
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"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Post #9 by Track T 2411 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:41 am

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Just a few of the kludge fixes...
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"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Post #10 by Track T 2411 » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:37 am

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Time to get to work!
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First thing to check, the water pump. Totally shot.
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Gas tank? Yuck!
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Gooped up gaskets. Imagine that!
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"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Post #11 by Track T 2411 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:51 pm

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Saturday and Sunday, Feb 20-21st. I told myself that the engine was NOT coming out of the frame on this build, mainly because I didn't want to get lost in the painting/powder coating process (time and money). As the gas tank was rusty and the fork seals were shot, both the front and back end were destined to be removed, however. The pics make the bike look a LOT cleaner that it was, lol!
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"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Post #12 by Track T 2411 » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:00 pm

It was quite easy to access the front cover once the tire and forks were off...

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Lots of nice goopy sludge!

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There was only a bit of contamination of the oil by antifreeze, apparent just around the back of the pump and the seal. When I first looked at the bike the radiator was bone dry, so I figured the pump was likely shot. I'm glad the antifreeze didn't leak into the oil, that's for sure...
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"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Post #13 by Track T 2411 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:56 pm

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A few shots of the overall grunge.
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"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Post #14 by Track T 2411 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:48 pm

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March 6th. Back together! As the objective of this build was to use the stockpile of parts I had already accumulated, I pulled the water pump (a replacement unit) from another 1100 rather than buying another. Before installing the cover, I spent several hours over a couple of weeks cleaning up the engine. While I never 'removed' the engine, at one point the only things holding the engine and frame together were the circlip on the drive shaft, and the temp sensor wire, lol!

With all the sludge in the front cover, I thought I'd pull the oil pickup screen cover and have a look-see into the bottom of the engine. No pictures, but yuck! While I still had the front cover off, I carefully tilted the engine forward and emptied two cans of brake parts cleaner spraying out the accumulated gunk, washing it out through the front of the engine.
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"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.

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Re: The 'Humpty Dumpty' refresh.

Post #15 by Track T 2411 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:57 pm

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So much better! And yes, new timing belts!
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"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow

"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown

Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!

Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!

In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.


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