Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

A forum for stories, pics and updates of your resto's. Be it a barn find, Grampas hand me down or a bike being brought back to it's former glory.If you are restoring it, show us your stuff!

Moderators: Brant, Sagebrush, Forum Moderators

User avatar
5speed
True Blue Steel Biker
True Blue Steel Biker
Posts: 2760
Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:37 pm
Location: Nova Scotia Canada

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #991 by 5speed » Fri May 18, 2018 12:58 pm

Patriccio wrote:Vanilla! You would be in opposition to my chocolate cake.
It just might be time for a beer.

I wonder if my starter has gone bad...

you can "bench test it" on the bike. I would have another set of hands to hold the clutch lever in and the front brake on as an added safety precaution..
I would unhook the positive cable from the starter and use jumper cables either from your bike battery or your car to apply power directly to the starter and see if it works.
1982 1100 std.
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
2002 Shadow American Classic (the boss's ride)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.

User avatar
Patriccio
Silver Member
Silver Member
Posts: 959
Joined: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:57 pm
Location: San Diego, Ca.

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #992 by Patriccio » Sat May 19, 2018 12:53 am

It's chocolate cake time.
No, it's beer time.
I got the Puppy started today w/ a bump-start. I had rolled it out from the patio & gave the start button a tentative push & I heard a little grrrr, & then it stopped. My son pushed me. As it turns out, he is worth a little more than someone who plays Fortnight for days at a time. He pushed, & I was the captain. It roared to life (see below), just like a combination lion/alligator roar. Remember, I have removed the mufflers, & I'm in the process of designing a newer system. The design team of Procrastinators & Lollygaggers, et alia are out to lunch, so not much has been accomplished.
Can you find the stainless steel mufflers in this picture?
P5180668.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
If there is one thing I have learned throughout this process it is this: Check your respirator for spiders before you put it on.

User avatar
Patriccio
Silver Member
Silver Member
Posts: 959
Joined: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:57 pm
Location: San Diego, Ca.

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #993 by Patriccio » Sat May 19, 2018 1:02 am

After the Puppy roared to life, I took it for a little spin around the complex.
Special Apology Section
I humbly do apologize to all of my neighbors who witnessed the despicable display of unnecessary noise from an uninhibited muffler system on an antique motorcycle.
If I skeered the kittens, I apologize.
If I skeered real puppies, I apologize.
If I awakened the babies, I apologize.
If I set off all of the car alarms, I apologize.
If I disrupted anyone's pacemaker, I apologize.
I I made you drop the TV remote control, I apologize.
Special Invitation Section
I humbly invite all of my neighbors to join Naked Goldwing Club just so you all can witness my humble apology.
I guess I now have to test the battery for its true charge & CCA, & maybe I'll take 5speed's advice & check the starter motor (even though he consumes vanilla cake & lives on the other side).

Oh, and one other downer; I'm out of scotch.
If there is one thing I have learned throughout this process it is this: Check your respirator for spiders before you put it on.

User avatar
5speed
True Blue Steel Biker
True Blue Steel Biker
Posts: 2760
Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:37 pm
Location: Nova Scotia Canada

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #994 by 5speed » Sat May 19, 2018 11:55 am

Patriccio wrote:I guess I now have to test the battery for its true charge & CCA, & maybe I'll take 5speed's advice & check the starter motor (even though he consumes vanilla cake & lives on the other side).

Oh, and one other downer; I'm out of scotch.


Busy today and haven't got to my 1100 yet. Just have to top up the oil and check the air pressure in the tires and shocks..
Speaking of rye..apparently you shouldn't consume it before 6pm according to she who must be obeyed..
So..I picked some of this up for my coffee...
To quote Vince gill.."she forgot about my old john deere." :mrgreen:

Image
1982 1100 std.
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
2002 Shadow American Classic (the boss's ride)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.

User avatar
Patriccio
Silver Member
Silver Member
Posts: 959
Joined: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:57 pm
Location: San Diego, Ca.

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #995 by Patriccio » Sat May 19, 2018 7:54 pm

I didn't know they made a cream. Hmmm, time for a trial run if I can find it.

Before running errands, I set the trickle charger to the battery again. When I returned, I tried to start it, & I got the
little grrr; yea, a tiny grrr, just like an ocelot kitten. Then when my son got home, we ran cables between his bike battery & my bike battery & let them set for half an hour. Nuttin' but a click.

Perhaps I am a victim of American Mediocrity. Perhaps the battery is defective. Perhaps the trickle charger is defective. Perhaps I'm defective. Next, I just might replace the cables, from the starter & the one from the starter relay solenoid.
I don't know.
And I'm still out of scotch.
If there is one thing I have learned throughout this process it is this: Check your respirator for spiders before you put it on.

User avatar
5speed
True Blue Steel Biker
True Blue Steel Biker
Posts: 2760
Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:37 pm
Location: Nova Scotia Canada

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #996 by 5speed » Sat May 19, 2018 8:12 pm

jump the starter first..eliminate that from the equation.
you can get 40 Creek down your way?
1982 1100 std.
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
2002 Shadow American Classic (the boss's ride)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.

User avatar
Patriccio
Silver Member
Silver Member
Posts: 959
Joined: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:57 pm
Location: San Diego, Ca.

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #997 by Patriccio » Sat May 19, 2018 10:16 pm

10-4
If there is one thing I have learned throughout this process it is this: Check your respirator for spiders before you put it on.

User avatar
chewy999
True Blue Steel Biker
True Blue Steel Biker
Posts: 2950
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:21 am
Location: Haddenham, Cambs, UK

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #998 by chewy999 » Sun May 20, 2018 4:46 am

Patriccio wrote:The battery is a rather new AGM


Do get the battery properly checked, just because something is (rather) new, doesn't mean it's ok! Back in the day when I bought a brand new 83, I went to start it after a week, and the battery was dead! Had to get a new one on warranty!
Most importantly, make sure you have adequate supplies of Scotch!

anim-cheers1 anim-cheers1 anim-cheers1
Previous Rides,
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.

User avatar
Patriccio
Silver Member
Silver Member
Posts: 959
Joined: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:57 pm
Location: San Diego, Ca.

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #999 by Patriccio » Sun May 20, 2018 4:15 pm

For the third time in my life, I followed someone's directions.
So-- 5speed (and everybody else who has been following my dilemma), I disconnected the positive lead to the battery; I disconnected the lead to the starter. Bike in neutral. First, I ran the jumper cables from the positive on the battery & then to the starter & got nothing. Then I ran some 12 gauge wire from the positive terminal of the battery to the post on the starter. Nothing. Not a click. Not a "How ya Do?" Dead. Not even a complementary kitten growl. I reconnected everything & tried the start switch again & got the click. Lights work (except one tail light) Turn signals. Horn. Brake lights.

I guess this means that new starter I bought when I built the bike has gone bad, yes?
Please advise. I'm about to do something drastic like spend two hours at the gym & ninety seconds at the liquor store buying scotch.
Yep, still out of scotch.
chewy999, thanks. I'm working on those parts of the dilemmical quandary.
If there is one thing I have learned throughout this process it is this: Check your respirator for spiders before you put it on.

User avatar
chewy999
True Blue Steel Biker
True Blue Steel Biker
Posts: 2950
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:21 am
Location: Haddenham, Cambs, UK

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #1000 by chewy999 » Sun May 20, 2018 4:52 pm

From what you said, it's now sounding like the starter has a problem. You can check it out of the bike by connecting the positive side of the battery to the post on the starter, and another cable from the negative terminal to an unpainted part of the starter. If it works, there is a lot of torque when the starter works, so clamp it down.

anim-cheers1 anim-cheers1 anim-cheers1
Previous Rides,
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.

User avatar
5speed
True Blue Steel Biker
True Blue Steel Biker
Posts: 2760
Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:37 pm
Location: Nova Scotia Canada

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #1001 by 5speed » Sun May 20, 2018 5:05 pm

I think my next step would be to pull the starter and bench test it using jumper cables and my car battery.
1982 1100 std.
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
2002 Shadow American Classic (the boss's ride)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.

User avatar
Patriccio
Silver Member
Silver Member
Posts: 959
Joined: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:57 pm
Location: San Diego, Ca.

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #1002 by Patriccio » Sun May 20, 2018 5:21 pm

Yep. Just did all that stuff. Chewy, I just read one of your posts re this issue.
Voltmeter battery very low. I'm off to store for battery to test the battery again.
When I touch the start button, head light cuts off completely.
I may have to pull the starter.
If there is one thing I have learned throughout this process it is this: Check your respirator for spiders before you put it on.

User avatar
5speed
True Blue Steel Biker
True Blue Steel Biker
Posts: 2760
Joined: Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:37 pm
Location: Nova Scotia Canada

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #1003 by 5speed » Sun May 20, 2018 5:30 pm

this sure sounds like a bad battery.. the head light going off especially.
1982 1100 std.
1976 GoldWing. running but not on the road
2002 Shadow American Classic (the boss's ride)
1983 Shadow 500. (sold)
1978 Goldwing. future cafe project.

User avatar
RAT
Photo Gallery Admin
Photo Gallery Admin
Posts: 12474
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:59 pm
My Album: http://www.ngwclub.com/gallery/v/wingmans/rat/
Location: TORONTO, CANADA

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #1004 by RAT » Sun May 20, 2018 6:05 pm

I think the headlight is supposed to go off when you hit the start button ?

Gord :roll:
"I'd rather Ride than Shine"
'82 GL1100 Interstate 'R2B5' (Rat 2 Be 5)
2001 ST1100 'R2B4' SOLD ....
Team 898, Team LTD 993 and Team '76 R2B3
My Original 'RAT' was an '82 CB900/1100F

User avatar
Patriccio
Silver Member
Silver Member
Posts: 959
Joined: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:57 pm
Location: San Diego, Ca.

Re: Never Ever B4 seen photos of a Goldwing

Post #1005 by Patriccio » Sun May 20, 2018 6:23 pm

Yes, the light dims when we touch the start button. That's what the book says. The Mechanic's Manual also has wonderful advice on testing the starter motor. "Install the engine. Test the starter motor." I'm unsure if that's a direct translation from the original Japanese language.

Treacherous 5.2 Mile Roundtrip to Target
I nearly died several times on the way to Target to buy those all-important batteries for the volt meters. First, I wasn't even out of the neighborhood before some bozo opened his door right in front of my truck. I wasn't scared; I had the larger vehicle. But the guy was on his phone & didn't check his mirrors before that awesome & mighty irresponsible fling of the door. I swerved & breezed on down to the stop sign. Immediately, a young woman on her phone in a white Jeep nearly plowed into my rear end. I took accident-avoidance procedures & pulled away from the stop sign. Dang! I thought, she's following me. All the time she chit-chatted on her phone & tail-gated me all the way up the hill to one of the busiest intersections in San Diego County: Balboa Ave meets Genessee Ave.

I thought she was going to plow into me, so I took evasive maneuvers over a sidewalk, through a gap in the bushes, & narrowly missing several Girl Scouts in full regalia selling cookies (My, oh, my, entrepreneurs are starting young these days). I whipped around the bank, over two mores curbs (I"m glad I installed those Bilstein shocks several months ago), & I entered the main parking lot. And there she was! Still giggling into her phone & endangering everybody in her path. I slammed the truck into the closest parking spot. I'd rather walk several blocks just to avoid her. Heart rate: 120 bpm, not too bad considering.

I got home & slammed a battery into voltmeter #1. Instantly, one of the leads broke off the battery connection. "No big deal," I thought. "I have another one." I opened up voltmeter #2. The lead on that one was already broken.

I've made a mess of the whole day, so I think I'll just go to the gym & lift about 19 tons of cold steel.
P5200669.JPG

P5200670.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
If there is one thing I have learned throughout this process it is this: Check your respirator for spiders before you put it on.


Return to “Members Restorations and Projects”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Sandling, Sugs and 1 guest