Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
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- Pedrotq
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
G'day to Everyone!
I managed to rip open the final drive before I did any damage to it, the backlash spacer was 2.08mm and I replaced it with a 2.2mm one that I have, just have to assemble her.
I made up a special pinned socket to remove the "Ring gear bearing preload retainer" a while back but lent it out
Oh well make a new one All I had was a 100mm chunk of high tensile rod, it machines nice but the swarf comes off like an unwinding spring and tangles everywhere.
used a sawn off 1" socket pressed in with 5 ton so no welding required.
I did not have enough 4mm pins (need 12, had 8) but she did the job well.
Just have to fit and torque things up now (too many beers got in the way last night)
Happy and Safe Riding to All, Peter.
I managed to rip open the final drive before I did any damage to it, the backlash spacer was 2.08mm and I replaced it with a 2.2mm one that I have, just have to assemble her.
I made up a special pinned socket to remove the "Ring gear bearing preload retainer" a while back but lent it out
Oh well make a new one All I had was a 100mm chunk of high tensile rod, it machines nice but the swarf comes off like an unwinding spring and tangles everywhere.
used a sawn off 1" socket pressed in with 5 ton so no welding required.
I did not have enough 4mm pins (need 12, had 8) but she did the job well.
Just have to fit and torque things up now (too many beers got in the way last night)
Happy and Safe Riding to All, Peter.
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- ready to receive the 2.2mm shim.
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- Back of tool number B26354.
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- Business end of tool number B26354
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- The "Ring gear bearing preload retainer" in place.
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- Tool # B26354 in place to do its duty.
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Pedrotq ~ (Pedro The Questionable)
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
- Pedrotq
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
G'day to All
my #64 drill bits arrived so I did the "Off idle hesitation" modification on the air jets for #1 project.
I have been putting a lot of time on a secret Goldwing project, but I am not telling until I can make it a reality , otherwise I will make a fool of myself
I am also get a bit cheesed off burning my fingers on an oil change out, so I knocked up a cheap remote sump plug undoing tool.
the rest of the day I went for a quick ride and forgot the sunblock, paying for it now, then I snoozed off for the arvo
as usual still awaiting small parts that I just bought on e-bay to continue the work.
Happy & Safe Riding to all.
Peter.
my #64 drill bits arrived so I did the "Off idle hesitation" modification on the air jets for #1 project.
I have been putting a lot of time on a secret Goldwing project, but I am not telling until I can make it a reality , otherwise I will make a fool of myself
I am also get a bit cheesed off burning my fingers on an oil change out, so I knocked up a cheap remote sump plug undoing tool.
the rest of the day I went for a quick ride and forgot the sunblock, paying for it now, then I snoozed off for the arvo
as usual still awaiting small parts that I just bought on e-bay to continue the work.
Happy & Safe Riding to all.
Peter.
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- Drilling out the #60 air jet to #64 drill bit (#97 jet)
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- Sump plug tool (top view).
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- Sump plug tool (bottom view).
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Pedrotq ~ (Pedro The Questionable)
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
Now I know where the nick name comes from!!
Bikes at present:
83 XL 600r with a 2004 XR650L engine
And a slightly worse for the wear BMW GS adventure bike awaiting repair
83 GL in process
83 XL 600r with a 2004 XR650L engine
And a slightly worse for the wear BMW GS adventure bike awaiting repair
83 GL in process
- Sugs
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
Man, you have waaay too much time on your hands. Wish I knew how to work metal the way you do.
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- ericheath
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
Sugs , I'd be happy if I could do 1/10 of what he does in the time it takes him.
No I have to be questionable and ask for an 'splananation of the sump tool...???
No I have to be questionable and ask for an 'splananation of the sump tool...???
Whatever I suggest here should be given ample time for a moderator to delicately correct. I apologize in advance.
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
77 WING, 1200 engine with 77 heads, cams, gl1100 foot pegs, Magna V65 front end, 764A carbs, [-gone Suzuki M109 monoshock--, replaced with gl1100 shocks] gl 1200 swing arm, gl1500 final drive, wheel and rear brakes Valkyrie seat, Meanstreak tank, Sportster pipes, Power Arc ignition off crank.
77 Wing. black
83 Wing, in pieces
"Continuing education is important even if the subject matter is fairly useless (as in this case)."---Greg Foresi
- Pedrotq
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
G'day to All
I dismantled the final drive, changed the adjusting shim and assembled her with fresh oil. Took her for a ride of 30km (18.64114 miles) and you could fry an egg on the final drive.
I am not messing about anymore, I have a spare and going to buy another, strip, clean and paint each one individually without getting components mixt up, the ones I have are off to the scrap metal merchant.
The 1500 sump plug is located right under the engine, thus the need for a remote socket driver, I like to get the oil hot with all the bits stirred up so less sediment is left in the sump as is when you let it get cold and settle out.
Don't know how much I will get done today as my grandson is under my feet.
Best regards, Peter.
I dismantled the final drive, changed the adjusting shim and assembled her with fresh oil. Took her for a ride of 30km (18.64114 miles) and you could fry an egg on the final drive.
I am not messing about anymore, I have a spare and going to buy another, strip, clean and paint each one individually without getting components mixt up, the ones I have are off to the scrap metal merchant.
The 1500 sump plug is located right under the engine, thus the need for a remote socket driver, I like to get the oil hot with all the bits stirred up so less sediment is left in the sump as is when you let it get cold and settle out.
Don't know how much I will get done today as my grandson is under my feet.
Best regards, Peter.
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- GL1500 sump plug.
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- Sump plug tool with a socket attached.
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Pedrotq ~ (Pedro The Questionable)
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
- wingrider
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
Interesting tool!
Last edited by wingrider on Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:32 am, edited 1 time in total.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
- Pedrotq
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
How strange?
my 98 Valky is the same.
You would think they would have at least moved it to the other side of the engine so the oil would completely drain out.
my 98 Valky is the same.
You would think they would have at least moved it to the other side of the engine so the oil would completely drain out.
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- Drain bolt on my 98 Valkyrie.
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Pedrotq ~ (Pedro The Questionable)
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
- robin1731
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
Most shops put them on a lift. So the bike/engine would be level. Allowing all/most of the oil to drain.Pedrotq wrote:snip...............
You would think they would have at least moved it to the other side of the engine so the oil would completely drain out.
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1976 Goldwing Super Sport
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
1985 Honda Elite
1976 KZ900 Dragbike
1992 ZX7 Dragbike (KZ900 style motor w/NOS)
and a rotation of various purchases
Randakk approved Carb Rebuilder
- wingrider
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
Now I had to go and show my bad memory skills as of late... Had my 1800 on the brain.Pedrotq wrote:How strange?
my 98 Valky is the same.
You would think they would have at least moved it to the other side of the engine so the oil would completely drain out.
I guess, in my defense, the 1500's are a 1000 miles away. Out of site, out of clear mind.
2002 1800 Wing
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
2001 Valkyrie Interstate
1978 1200 EFI Wing with Motorvation Coupe Royale sidecar
1977 1200 Wing cafe/bobber project
1974 Suzuki GT550
- ehadams
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
Cool Tool Pedro!
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75 GL1000 w/ California SideCar Friendship 1 (mine)
79 GL1000 w/ Sweet SideCar (Heather's)
75 GL1000 destined to be customized
89 GL1500 (still undecided)
79 GL1000 was Scott's (what to do with this one?)
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
To me, this thread is the best thing on the Internet.
- Pedrotq
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
G'day to Everyone!
Many thanks Liam for your beautiful words, makes me very happy to think others enjoy what I am doing.
Have big plans for the week, but the weather is a bit yuck! then I dropped a heavy home made (not by me) stool on my foot and now I can not put my boots on
did a couple of welding jobs, had two gear change levers, changed the profile on one and cut the end tip off the toe, then cut the complete toe off the other and welded them together, now I can put two rubbers on it so I can change gears more easily on the sidecar.
I got sick and tired of trying to hold the final drive with one hand and loosen or tighten bolts with the other, so I knocked up a bracket to hold it to my welding bench utilising the holes drilled there for a vice, also machined up a couple of spacers to hold the middle down too.
Many thanks Liam for your beautiful words, makes me very happy to think others enjoy what I am doing.
Have big plans for the week, but the weather is a bit yuck! then I dropped a heavy home made (not by me) stool on my foot and now I can not put my boots on
did a couple of welding jobs, had two gear change levers, changed the profile on one and cut the end tip off the toe, then cut the complete toe off the other and welded them together, now I can put two rubbers on it so I can change gears more easily on the sidecar.
I got sick and tired of trying to hold the final drive with one hand and loosen or tighten bolts with the other, so I knocked up a bracket to hold it to my welding bench utilising the holes drilled there for a vice, also machined up a couple of spacers to hold the middle down too.
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- Extra "Big Foot" shifter before cleaning on the grinder.
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- Final drive bracket and hardware.
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- Strapped to the bench.
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- Ready for some serious business.
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Pedrotq ~ (Pedro The Questionable)
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
- Pedrotq
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
Cut the end off a sad final drive coupling, machined up a scrap piece left over from the leading link design stage, pressed them together with a couple of ton and away she went. worked perfectly
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- New final drive spline holding tool.
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- In place ready for the first trial.
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- Socket on and away she goes.
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- Perfect!
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Pedrotq ~ (Pedro The Questionable)
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
- Pedrotq
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Re: Pedro!'s rebuilding projects
Ok, so I was hiding my secret project but I am feeling that it will all be just a nice dream as sourcing the components seem to be harder than I anticipated, so I am blurting it out and maybe someone can point me in the direction to go in.
I am getting old and pushing the outfit backwards is a little hard, so I want to install a reverse gear on her.
My concept is to use a planetary gear set up on the exit shaft in place of the damper. With all gears locked together it is just straight drive, but if you lock the planetary gear ring the ring gear will turn in the opposite direction of the sun gear.
I have drawn up a plan of concept, nothing in the diagram is to scale, it is just a concept, but putting it into reality is .....er......Yes!
I am getting old and pushing the outfit backwards is a little hard, so I want to install a reverse gear on her.
My concept is to use a planetary gear set up on the exit shaft in place of the damper. With all gears locked together it is just straight drive, but if you lock the planetary gear ring the ring gear will turn in the opposite direction of the sun gear.
I have drawn up a plan of concept, nothing in the diagram is to scale, it is just a concept, but putting it into reality is .....er......Yes!
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- The concept.
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- Exit drive shaft with the damper pulled apart.
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- Off come the ears.
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- Like that.
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- Off come the other ears.
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Pedrotq ~ (Pedro The Questionable)
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
Perth, Western Australia.
1988 GL-1500 ~ HRD sidecar outfit.
1990 GL-1500SE ~ (project) ~ Stripped down to be a "Naked 90".
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