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Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom

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Ccarel1 wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:00 pm Wow!Some serious tinkering going on
there!I've realy enjoyed your (Threesome) built so far and can't wait to see the finished trike!
Thanks, Ccarel1 tumb2
Some fellows say it isn't finished without rear fenders :lol:
Since very late 2012, until May, 2020 It and I have travelled over 30,000 miles; without fenders.

Until I added the saddlebags in 2015, very little rain would get onto me as long as we were moving.
The large front fairing and its windshield protected all but my boots and pants cuffs.
Rooster tails off the rear tires were always very entertaining to see in the rearview mirrors. tumb2

The addition of saddlebags the night before I rode to the 2015 Paris, Ontario Fairgrounds Rally significantly changed the airflow dynamics around the back of the trike. On my ride home, rain started falling and totally unexpected, suddenly my back and helmet were getting soaked and rain was wetting the back side of my windshield, too!
Exhaust fumes would surround me enough to give me a headache if I slumped down and didn't keep my face in the wind.
:shock:
I believe my trike riding days are almost finished since I broke my neurologically weakened right leg in 2018. c'est la vie :(
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Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom

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MattMcCoy wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:55 pm They don’t make guys like your friend anymore. Rat said it perfectly, so ditto.
Yes, Jim was a unique fellow. It has been almost 2 years since I last saw him alive in a nursing center.
The 2020 March shut-down prevented me from ever seeing Jim again. He died around 2 months later.
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Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom?

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Also agree with Gord, that each ride you took was a tribute to his efforts. Most fortunate for your acquaintance with Jim and without a partner like that your Threedom would be limited. I do know how well you both worked together. Covid shutdown was bad timing for your situation for sure. Think the Trike is a trophy now!
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Trike's engine, cylinder leak down rate test results

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My 1975 GL1000 engine's cylinder leak down rate varies from approximately 4% to 7% across all 4 cylinders.
Yes, I have tested the individual cylinder pressure leak down rates many times over the last 8 years this engine was running.
Yes, I do believe those numbers are realistic on these engines; only when each complete combustion chamber is operationally "healthy" , though.
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* 1-the Air compressor must maintain a constant supply of more than 100 psi delivered to the cylinder leak down rate tester. On this tester's gauge face, 0% = 100 psi.
( Refer to the User Information Instructions that accompany your leakdown tester)

* 2-A compression tester adaptor hose (or other 12mm test fitting) can be utilized for leakdown testing after its integral 'schrader' type, threaded-in check valve core is first removed. view this example- https://www.ngwclub.com/forum/download/ ... p?id=89308

VERY IMPORTANT! Keep fingers away from exposed PINCH/CRUSH Timing Belts and Pulleys Before and During the insertion of pressurized air into a Tested Cylinder!! AND be 100% clear the transmission has been/ IS selected to NEUTRAL, TOO!
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IMPORTANT read this :oldies AND the SIMILAR TOPICS at the very bottom of that same page

I trust my Kohler engine diagnostics cylinder leakdown rate tester's accuracy. Nothing fancy. Single gauge.
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Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom?

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My guess if you are par for the course.
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Maybe I'll call it Threedom? nope... I called it trike

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I suppose so, Jeff ;)

The first time I had Cylinder Leakdown Rate tested the 1975 GL1000 trike's engine was 10 years ago. At the time the bike had 7,831 miles on its odometer.

Upon installing my Kohler engines Leakdown Tester assembly onto the first cylinder to be tested and inserting regulated air pressure, The Leakdown Tester gauge's displayed percentage of Cylinder pressure loss reading was so :shock: minimal, I had suspicions my tester was affected somehow. hmmmm....🤔

After a few moments of my puzzlement passed, I very slowly pushed down on the kick start lever to roll the crankshaft off TDC . Didn't require much rotation of the crankshaft for the applied air pressure to suddenly spin the crankshaft towards BDC.
The tester gauge reading dropped to 100% loss. Expelled out the exhaust port.

The leak down test numbers in these photos ( up there ) and individual Cylinder Compression test numbers ( next post down ) were taken when the trike's original odometer displayed almost 39,000 miles.
2 years ago. My last ride probably.
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"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi tumb2
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing ;)
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT tumb2 Me Too!!

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Trike's engine, cylinder compression testing video and photos

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I've added this very brief compression test video and photos to my trike's "build thread" for historical purpose,
The Snap-On gauge needle is twitchy at the higher readings. The needle climbs to 150ish psi in 10 compression strokes though :-D Crank the engine until the needle won't climb any higher. Yes. All intake and exhaust valves' lash clearance are set at 0.006 inch.

note: to achieve most accurate cylinders pressure testing results, use a correct testing adapter.
an example https://www.ngwclub.com/forum/download/ ... p?id=89308
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Cylinder #1 Compression Test Video - at 38,932 miles

:oldies download the brief compression testing video of my trike's engine #1 cylinder
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(~ 10 seconds actual cranking time, yielded approximately 30 compression strokes ) ( 60 revolutions x 6 = 360 rpm. )

dancr even More cylinder compression testing equipment photos- See Post #13 and Post #19
https://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=76923 "Real World Cylinder Compression"
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Maybe I'll call it Threedom was a proven success in the end

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I just noticed how many VIEWS this Topic has tallied since my enthusiastic first post! :shock:

I'd guess a thousand of those VIEWS are mine :lol:
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"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing ;)
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT tumb2 Me Too!!

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Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom?

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WOW!!
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I account for quite a few as well.
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Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom

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Cliff,

I have a leak down tester and I have found that a smaller amount of pressure in the 40-50 PSI range works well. I am following more of what a online rebuilder posted for smaller bore fours, which the GL series is not small bore.
I think his reasoning was the higher pressure of the 100 PSI + can start to turn the piston being measured off TDC.

I have never done Wing engine.... as all mine are PERFECT! lolol

That's my hope anyway, as the Wings both run great. :crosso
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Re: Maybe I'll call it Threedom

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flyin900 wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:49 pm Cliff,

I have a leak down tester and I have found that a smaller amount of pressure in the 40-50 PSI range works well. I am following more of what a online rebuilder posted for smaller bore fours, which the GL series is not small bore.
I think his reasoning was the higher pressure of the 100 PSI + can start to turn the piston being measured off TDC.

I have never done Wing engine.... as all mine are PERFECT! lolol

That's my hope anyway, as the Wings both run great. :crosso
I agree; if the crankshaft unexpectedly starts to rotate away from Top Dead Center, simply let it go and start over again. The probability of getting injured hands at 100 psi is very real.
:oldies Welllllll, you know now, you have to test both PERFECT Wing engines to give me a benchmark for comparison sake. tumb2
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RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi tumb2
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nope. Always called it trike. AND it has a younger foreign friend

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Sandy wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 2:35 pm I account for quite a few as well.
GL1000 Trikes in Paris (Ontario, Canada ;) ) 6/15/2018 the 'Yellow' is Sandy's ride. tumb2
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6/16/2018 - sitting in the Paris (Ontario) Fairgrounds parking lot -- me lookin all smug-like waiting to ride 240 miles back to Syracuse. 5 and 1/2 riding hrs later....broke my weak leg at home :(
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rememer that rally....... good times.... good times :lol: :lol:
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Yes indeed … great fun, good people

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