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thought about one when I had my first sidecar... but $$$
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Gears are the easiest way to add giddy-up to your wing, longer lever and all that ! But the downside is the cruise rpm, i don’t know what that cruise rpm would be with either set but my conversion to a 16” rear wheel bumped the cruise rpm up 300-400 rpm at 55 mph (normal is usually 3000rpms) and sometimes has me looking for another gear, depends on the day.

The 16” rear wheel is of course a much cheaper path and why I went that way back in 78, but probably not as effective as the GEM gearset. And then of course you can combine the two but it would be screaming down the Highway, i don’t think the wing motor would much care but it would be hard on the nerves.

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CYBORG wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:04 pm just a side note, but I always find it interesting that Harley always seems to be the standard that other bikes are compared to. Especially, because in my opinion, they are no where near the top of the food chain.
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I've heard like stories from many Goldwing owners over the years. Even from a few converts. :lol:
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Alwing17 has 4. GEM set on his Zonker, along with a 1100 short block and 1000 heads and cams,


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CYBORG wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 3:39 pm I've heard like stories from many Goldwing owners over the years. Even from a few converts. :lol:
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You have lived in both camps for some time now...........opinion?
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the latest HD's are so different than the 1970's hd's.... but then again, would I compare a gl1800 to a gl100?

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I don't hate Harleys (or Harley people). I just find it amusing when they try to convince people they are powerful ;)
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Bob, thanks for your story, probably most have experienced something like this. Very apt description, thanks !
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Mickster wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:07 pm snipped-
gltriker, the bike runs really nice now so I think I will leave it alone and just ride it like it has been suggested.
okay, getting back to Mickster's 1979 GL1000 engine performance Topic now... ;)

Have you been able to, additionally just ride it like it has been suggested, Mickster ?
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Yes, I have taken it out and zoomed around some rural highways.

The bike has dyna coils, dyna ignition and dyna wires. Timing, plugs, air filter, all that sort of stuff is correct to the best of my ability. The only unknown is the jetting in the carb set but I'm assuming the carbs are all stock.

So, the only mod would be going from the stock GL mufflers to the stock HD Dyna mufflers, and I just don't see a big difference.

I did open the mix screws to 3 turns as suggested and it seems to run better.

With wide open throttle and getting the bike up to about 5000/5500 rpm in 5th gear and then backing off to about 3/4 throttle the bike actually speeds up. As a side note, about 5500 rpm is when it really kicks in like a nitro boost.

Does that indicate an overly rich condition? Do you think I should re-set the mix screws to 2 or 2 1/2 turns?

Just for fun, pic of bike after I finally put it back together the first time just to see if it would run. It ran, so I ditched the fairing, upgraded the electrics, new belts, rebuilt all brake stuff, repainted and cleaned er up.
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Naw, that sounds pretty normal. As said, these really aren't torquey motors down low. Below 4k is really for gentle acceleration and cruising. 5500 to redline is the "fun zone".
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Mickster wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:27 amSNIP

Does that indicate an overly rich condition? Do you think I should re-set the mix screws to 2 or 2 1/2 turns?
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The mix screws are part of the low speed circuit. Yes they operate at all speeds but their impact is minuscule above idle. Some carb flow drawings here that may help https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 40#p453030
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