Acceleration anomoly?
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
thought about one when I had my first sidecar... but $$$
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The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
Gears are the easiest way to add giddy-up to your wing, longer lever and all that ! But the downside is the cruise rpm, i don’t know what that cruise rpm would be with either set but my conversion to a 16” rear wheel bumped the cruise rpm up 300-400 rpm at 55 mph (normal is usually 3000rpms) and sometimes has me looking for another gear, depends on the day.
The 16” rear wheel is of course a much cheaper path and why I went that way back in 78, but probably not as effective as the GEM gearset. And then of course you can combine the two but it would be screaming down the Highway, i don’t think the wing motor would much care but it would be hard on the nerves.
Back in the day Lester Mags made wheels for the wings in 15”, 16”, 17”(stock) & 18”,, all depending on your wants & beliefs.
The 16” rear wheel is of course a much cheaper path and why I went that way back in 78, but probably not as effective as the GEM gearset. And then of course you can combine the two but it would be screaming down the Highway, i don’t think the wing motor would much care but it would be hard on the nerves.
Back in the day Lester Mags made wheels for the wings in 15”, 16”, 17”(stock) & 18”,, all depending on your wants & beliefs.
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
If you think you have a lean hole , have you thought of welding in a 18x1.5 oxygen sensor bungs, then buy a AEM or MTX-L air fuel gauge I would fit dual bungs if you have a separate sides , where the 2 header pipes come together (collector) also check your advancer unit to be free and not be already ½ out on the advance . Cheers from NZ .
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
I've heard like stories from many Goldwing owners over the years. Even from a few converts.
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
Moi?
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76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
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all it takes for evil to prosper is the want of a few good men to do nothing-Edmund Burke
The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
You have lived in both camps for some time now...........opinion?
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
the latest HD's are so different than the 1970's hd's.... but then again, would I compare a gl1800 to a gl100?
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all it takes for evil to prosper is the want of a few good men to do nothing-Edmund Burke
The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
all it takes for evil to prosper is the want of a few good men to do nothing-Edmund Burke
The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
I don't hate Harleys (or Harley people). I just find it amusing when they try to convince people they are powerful
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The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
"A guy with two sidecars can't be all bad." - Cookie
Another guy with two sidecars..... Hmmmm... must be something to that....
The Famous Eccles ('84 CX650EI/VeloUral) winter Never Ending Build (CX500forum)
Click: Colour schematics for all GL1000 & GL1100 and GL1200 standard models plus instructions on how to download the full size version
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
Bob, thanks for your story, probably most have experienced something like this. Very apt description, thanks !
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1976 LTD restored
1980 CBX , in the que, to fix the ignorant heavy handed owner
1981 CBX
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1980 CBX , in the que, to fix the ignorant heavy handed owner
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1977 CB750 K7
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
okay, getting back to Mickster's 1979 GL1000 engine performance Topic now...
Have you been able to, additionally just ride it like it has been suggested, Mickster ?
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
Yes, I have taken it out and zoomed around some rural highways.
The bike has dyna coils, dyna ignition and dyna wires. Timing, plugs, air filter, all that sort of stuff is correct to the best of my ability. The only unknown is the jetting in the carb set but I'm assuming the carbs are all stock.
So, the only mod would be going from the stock GL mufflers to the stock HD Dyna mufflers, and I just don't see a big difference.
I did open the mix screws to 3 turns as suggested and it seems to run better.
With wide open throttle and getting the bike up to about 5000/5500 rpm in 5th gear and then backing off to about 3/4 throttle the bike actually speeds up. As a side note, about 5500 rpm is when it really kicks in like a nitro boost.
Does that indicate an overly rich condition? Do you think I should re-set the mix screws to 2 or 2 1/2 turns?
Just for fun, pic of bike after I finally put it back together the first time just to see if it would run. It ran, so I ditched the fairing, upgraded the electrics, new belts, rebuilt all brake stuff, repainted and cleaned er up.
The bike has dyna coils, dyna ignition and dyna wires. Timing, plugs, air filter, all that sort of stuff is correct to the best of my ability. The only unknown is the jetting in the carb set but I'm assuming the carbs are all stock.
So, the only mod would be going from the stock GL mufflers to the stock HD Dyna mufflers, and I just don't see a big difference.
I did open the mix screws to 3 turns as suggested and it seems to run better.
With wide open throttle and getting the bike up to about 5000/5500 rpm in 5th gear and then backing off to about 3/4 throttle the bike actually speeds up. As a side note, about 5500 rpm is when it really kicks in like a nitro boost.
Does that indicate an overly rich condition? Do you think I should re-set the mix screws to 2 or 2 1/2 turns?
Just for fun, pic of bike after I finally put it back together the first time just to see if it would run. It ran, so I ditched the fairing, upgraded the electrics, new belts, rebuilt all brake stuff, repainted and cleaned er up.
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
Naw, that sounds pretty normal. As said, these really aren't torquey motors down low. Below 4k is really for gentle acceleration and cruising. 5500 to redline is the "fun zone".
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Re: Acceleration anomoly?
The mix screws are part of the low speed circuit. Yes they operate at all speeds but their impact is minuscule above idle. Some carb flow drawings here that may help https://ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 40#p453030
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