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suggestions
gday folks, am new to forums and not quite sure what im doing??? own a 1976 sulfur yellow GL1000. love it! also working on a 1980 GL1100. both American imports to the UK. Am removing the engine from the 1100 to sort out starter clutch, any suggestions on what else i should do whilst the engine is out? Regards to you all, John.
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Re: suggestions
Welcome from Wisconsin, U.S.A. A good starting point for you might be the new2 you thread. There's a link to it in my signature. Dig in, and feel free to ask questions! Enjoy the ride!
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Current Rides:
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'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
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Re: suggestions
Welcome to the 'Wingdom ....
Neutral switch is much easier with the engine on the bench ....
Gord
Neutral switch is much easier with the engine on the bench ....
Gord
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Re: suggestions
This forum and shop talk will be your best friend.
Oh yeah Welcome. Best of luck on your projects.
Oh yeah Welcome. Best of luck on your projects.
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Re: suggestions
What is going on with the starter clutch?
Problems with it, like intermittent free spinning and a huge clatter when it stops, often only means you're using the wrong type of oil.
Problems with it, like intermittent free spinning and a huge clatter when it stops, often only means you're using the wrong type of oil.
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Re: suggestions
really? huh.Explorer wrote:What is going on with the starter clutch?
Problems with it, like intermittent free spinning and a huge clatter when it stops, often only means you're using the wrong type of oil.
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full Vetter dress 1979 GL1000 - "Barge" (currently down)
1986 1200 Aspencade - "Heart of Gold" - daily rider
1990 1500 Aspencade - It's ALIVE! but very, very naked. not in a good way.
1978 for $100 - project in worx
1978 from a previous member here - taking up space
my original '79 bought in '91 - replacing engine (eventually, maybe someday)
H2G2=42
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Re: suggestions
Well actually yeah, mine quit as soon as I started using the Delo 400 and that was a suggestion from someone else who'd had the same experience.
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Re: suggestions
Some tips on the starter clutch service: http://wingovations.com/slipping-starte ... 4579471093
Pull the crankcase filter (4 bolt oblong shaped plate, bottom right side of engine.) With it off, flush through with some fuel.
Since you are already going into the rear case, pull the clutch plates and inspect them for wear and warp. Change the starter chain; they can and do break and make a mess. Depending how deep you want to go, this might be a good idea too:
http://wingovations.com/scavenge-pump-p ... 4579471109
Good time to take the starter off and give a service too. Check the stator for any signs of frayed or cracked wiring and signs of burning. Take the water pump outlet off and check the impellor for any signs of sideways movement. Any movement at all, change the pump.
Pull the crankcase filter (4 bolt oblong shaped plate, bottom right side of engine.) With it off, flush through with some fuel.
Since you are already going into the rear case, pull the clutch plates and inspect them for wear and warp. Change the starter chain; they can and do break and make a mess. Depending how deep you want to go, this might be a good idea too:
http://wingovations.com/scavenge-pump-p ... 4579471109
Good time to take the starter off and give a service too. Check the stator for any signs of frayed or cracked wiring and signs of burning. Take the water pump outlet off and check the impellor for any signs of sideways movement. Any movement at all, change the pump.
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Re: suggestions
Thanks for this info. Top of task list as the clutch keeps spinning on cold starts.Old Fogey wrote:Some tips on the starter clutch service: http://wingovations.com/slipping-starte ... 4579471093
Pull the crankcase filter (4 bolt oblong shaped plate, bottom right side of engine.) With it off, flush through with some fuel.
Since you are already going into the rear case, pull the clutch plates and inspect them for wear and warp. Change the starter chain; they can and do break and make a mess. Depending how deep you want to go, this might be a good idea too:
http://wingovations.com/scavenge-pump-p ... 4579471109
Good time to take the starter off and give a service too. Check the stator for any signs of frayed or cracked wiring and signs of burning. Take the water pump outlet off and check the impellor for any signs of sideways movement. Any movement at all, change the pump.
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Re: suggestions
If the starter comes out, be sure to disassembly and clean the carbon out. The carbon, when hot, steals voltage and results in slow cranking only when hot. So get it clean when it is out because that is easy to do.
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Re: suggestions
mine does the intermittent Whirrrrr on start up and been doing it through all sorts of types of oil and for decades
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The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: suggestions
Mostly when it's cold? Outside temps cold, not the engine.rcmatt007 wrote:mine does the intermittent Whirrrrr on start up and been doing it through all sorts of types of oil and for decades
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consistently when I stop for gas and there are other bike brands also at the station. Also when it has sat a LOT.
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all it takes for evil to prosper is the want of a few good men to do nothing-Edmund Burke
The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
all it takes for evil to prosper is the want of a few good men to do nothing-Edmund Burke
The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: suggestions
Most of the bikes I've owned have had similar issues with the starter clutch failing to catch on REALLY cold days (Michigan winters, mostly). I'm assuming it's an oil thing, because it goes away once the bike is warmed up a bit. Starting with a fresh oil change might help/eliminate that problem. (I can't make any recommendations, because that's outside the scope of my expertise AND probably outside of the scope of this thread.)
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1974 Velosolex 3800- Better Than Walking
1972 CB750- Broke the Chain And Ate the Motor
1969 CT90- The Most Fun You Can Have on 90ccs.
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Re: suggestions
I agree. only seems to happen in colder weather. and with winter layups. I start mine up every week during the winter, and usually warm the shop up before I do it. Every now and then it sticks. But usually catches on the second try. Hitting the starter button just as the clutch starts to stop spinning, seems to help it catch
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