Solid clutch
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- transitman
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Solid clutch
Hi.
Carefully dismantled and rebuilt the clutch. Everything looked ok. Fitted the cable and tried it but got no movement at all. Pulled it apart and it's now on the bench but can't see anything wrong.
Can anyone advise on what could be wrong?
Carefully dismantled and rebuilt the clutch. Everything looked ok. Fitted the cable and tried it but got no movement at all. Pulled it apart and it's now on the bench but can't see anything wrong.
Can anyone advise on what could be wrong?
"Say not the struggle naught availeth." A H Clough.
'78 GL1000 Trike
1st bike: '58 150cc Ambassador 2 stroke. learned how to chuck it down the road
'31 BSA 500 single long stroke Sloper, dug out of a wall in Sussex, never went that well...
'49 Sunbeam S8, built from bits in '67, used daily, sold to a US biker in '84, still miss it
3 BSA Bantams, now a daughter has one
'78 Honda 500T
'78 GL1000 Trike
1st bike: '58 150cc Ambassador 2 stroke. learned how to chuck it down the road
'31 BSA 500 single long stroke Sloper, dug out of a wall in Sussex, never went that well...
'49 Sunbeam S8, built from bits in '67, used daily, sold to a US biker in '84, still miss it
3 BSA Bantams, now a daughter has one
'78 Honda 500T
- Dirty Dave
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Re: Solid clutch
Never having rebuilt a clutch myself the only thing that comes to mind is the soaking of the plates in oil before assembly.
Way off?
Way off?
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- flyin900
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Re: Solid clutch
The small plate with the 3 ball bearings that is activated by the push rod may not be assembled correctly. If not it will present as a solid immovable clutch.
Current Bikes:
1966 CL77 - Honda 305cc - Dual purpose - "Gentleman's Scrambler" was a period moniker.
1967 CL175K0 - Low production number with #802 engine serial- winter 2019/2020 full restoration.
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1984 GL1200 - Standard model in showroom condition - two owner bike from new.
1984 CX650E - Restored summer 2017 - a rare Eurosport model - excellent one owner bike.
1966 CL77 - Honda 305cc - Dual purpose - "Gentleman's Scrambler" was a period moniker.
1967 CL175K0 - Low production number with #802 engine serial- winter 2019/2020 full restoration.
1972 CB350F - Baby Four with low mileage - Cosmetic refresh to the next level 2021/2022.
1978 CB550K - Very original bike with only 7499 Km. from new - light cleanup and refresh done.
1983 CB1100F - Canadian model - DOHC Supersport in pristine low kilometre condition from new.
1984 GL1200 - Standard model in showroom condition - two owner bike from new.
1984 CX650E - Restored summer 2017 - a rare Eurosport model - excellent one owner bike.
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Re: Solid clutch
Describe "rebuilt".
Put in all new plates?
Did you readjusted the preload screw?
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Put in all new plates?
Did you readjusted the preload screw?
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Re: Solid clutch
I assembled the rear cover on an 1100 with the cam that pushes against the push rod in the wrong position and it felt solid. I suspect your problem is right there. I had to remove the cover and correct it.The small plate with the 3 ball bearings that is activated by the push rod may not be assembled correctly. If not it will present as a solid immovable clutch.
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- transitman
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Re: Solid clutch
Thanks for the responses.
This is the 7 year building a trike story detailed in tech discussions. All new plates and a new lifter and pressure plate and new cable. Followed Old Fogeys guidelines and removed plate B replacing with 2 standard plates. Followed the workshop manual exactly in rebuilding. Freed off and lubed the little cam plate and adjuster and set it as per. Refitted and adjusted the cable but there is no give at all in the clutch assembly when pulling the lever. Could see the slack taken up as I pulled the lever as there is no fuel tank in the way.
Pulled it all apart and the whole assembly is laid out on the bench. Had a really close look at everything but can't see anything amiss.
This is the 7 year building a trike story detailed in tech discussions. All new plates and a new lifter and pressure plate and new cable. Followed Old Fogeys guidelines and removed plate B replacing with 2 standard plates. Followed the workshop manual exactly in rebuilding. Freed off and lubed the little cam plate and adjuster and set it as per. Refitted and adjusted the cable but there is no give at all in the clutch assembly when pulling the lever. Could see the slack taken up as I pulled the lever as there is no fuel tank in the way.
Pulled it all apart and the whole assembly is laid out on the bench. Had a really close look at everything but can't see anything amiss.
"Say not the struggle naught availeth." A H Clough.
'78 GL1000 Trike
1st bike: '58 150cc Ambassador 2 stroke. learned how to chuck it down the road
'31 BSA 500 single long stroke Sloper, dug out of a wall in Sussex, never went that well...
'49 Sunbeam S8, built from bits in '67, used daily, sold to a US biker in '84, still miss it
3 BSA Bantams, now a daughter has one
'78 Honda 500T
'78 GL1000 Trike
1st bike: '58 150cc Ambassador 2 stroke. learned how to chuck it down the road
'31 BSA 500 single long stroke Sloper, dug out of a wall in Sussex, never went that well...
'49 Sunbeam S8, built from bits in '67, used daily, sold to a US biker in '84, still miss it
3 BSA Bantams, now a daughter has one
'78 Honda 500T
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Re: Solid clutch
There are two ways that little cam plate with the ball bearings will assemble. One way works and one way it is solid and immovable. I am not familiar with the two replacement plates used for the damper plate as I have never tried that procedure.
Assemble the clutch rear cover plate and operate the lever that the cable attaches to and see how the little plate rotates. It should raise the assembly outward when you pull on the lever in the correct direction.
Assemble the clutch rear cover plate and operate the lever that the cable attaches to and see how the little plate rotates. It should raise the assembly outward when you pull on the lever in the correct direction.
Current Bikes:
1966 CL77 - Honda 305cc - Dual purpose - "Gentleman's Scrambler" was a period moniker.
1967 CL175K0 - Low production number with #802 engine serial- winter 2019/2020 full restoration.
1972 CB350F - Baby Four with low mileage - Cosmetic refresh to the next level 2021/2022.
1978 CB550K - Very original bike with only 7499 Km. from new - light cleanup and refresh done.
1983 CB1100F - Canadian model - DOHC Supersport in pristine low kilometre condition from new.
1984 GL1200 - Standard model in showroom condition - two owner bike from new.
1984 CX650E - Restored summer 2017 - a rare Eurosport model - excellent one owner bike.
1966 CL77 - Honda 305cc - Dual purpose - "Gentleman's Scrambler" was a period moniker.
1967 CL175K0 - Low production number with #802 engine serial- winter 2019/2020 full restoration.
1972 CB350F - Baby Four with low mileage - Cosmetic refresh to the next level 2021/2022.
1978 CB550K - Very original bike with only 7499 Km. from new - light cleanup and refresh done.
1983 CB1100F - Canadian model - DOHC Supersport in pristine low kilometre condition from new.
1984 GL1200 - Standard model in showroom condition - two owner bike from new.
1984 CX650E - Restored summer 2017 - a rare Eurosport model - excellent one owner bike.
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Re: Solid clutch
Ok, thanks I will try that first thing tomorrow
"Say not the struggle naught availeth." A H Clough.
'78 GL1000 Trike
1st bike: '58 150cc Ambassador 2 stroke. learned how to chuck it down the road
'31 BSA 500 single long stroke Sloper, dug out of a wall in Sussex, never went that well...
'49 Sunbeam S8, built from bits in '67, used daily, sold to a US biker in '84, still miss it
3 BSA Bantams, now a daughter has one
'78 Honda 500T
'78 GL1000 Trike
1st bike: '58 150cc Ambassador 2 stroke. learned how to chuck it down the road
'31 BSA 500 single long stroke Sloper, dug out of a wall in Sussex, never went that well...
'49 Sunbeam S8, built from bits in '67, used daily, sold to a US biker in '84, still miss it
3 BSA Bantams, now a daughter has one
'78 Honda 500T
- transitman
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Re: Solid clutch
Yes. It moves nicely, smooth and greased
"Say not the struggle naught availeth." A H Clough.
'78 GL1000 Trike
1st bike: '58 150cc Ambassador 2 stroke. learned how to chuck it down the road
'31 BSA 500 single long stroke Sloper, dug out of a wall in Sussex, never went that well...
'49 Sunbeam S8, built from bits in '67, used daily, sold to a US biker in '84, still miss it
3 BSA Bantams, now a daughter has one
'78 Honda 500T
'78 GL1000 Trike
1st bike: '58 150cc Ambassador 2 stroke. learned how to chuck it down the road
'31 BSA 500 single long stroke Sloper, dug out of a wall in Sussex, never went that well...
'49 Sunbeam S8, built from bits in '67, used daily, sold to a US biker in '84, still miss it
3 BSA Bantams, now a daughter has one
'78 Honda 500T
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Re: Solid clutch
Good news .... love it when the site members fix things !!
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