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OK now I understand the caliper bolt is seized! Try penetrate and give it some time then heat. It is a steel bolt going into a aluminum housing. Very common setup for corrosion.
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finale, of sorts...
PROS: wheel back in. until i discovered both rear brake pads on one side of the rotor... spacer in first, drive lined up, in she went sweet as a nut.
CONS: could not remove the spline drive for love nor money. packed the moly in there like cake mix with it still on. used the rest of the tube on the rear drive.
you can overtighten the axle nut, which is why the wheel won't spin. doesn't mean you've buggered up the drive, necessarily...
that little brake pad tensioner spring/clip is a right p.i.t.a.

all in all, happy. will take it out for a wee test run tomorrow, then a recheck for leaks n' looseness, then hopefully a tad more pre-season tlc and i'm off !
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I do not recall over tightening causing a bind of the wheel?? You need to make sure the spacer is in the final drive hub. 2-3 inch long hunk of pipe looking thing.
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Whiskerfish wrote:I do not recall over tightening causing a bind of the wheel?? You need to make sure the spacer is in the final drive hub. 2-3 inch long hunk of pipe looking thing.
Yeah, it would be unusual. Did you tighten the axle with the pads bot on one side? Could have bent the rotor if you did.
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to answer both: spacer on the final is good. came out the second time i put the wheel in so i had to pay attention to refit. as for bending the rotor i don't believe so. the wheel moves considerably freer now the axle nut was slackened off a tad
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This is an 1100 correct? Make sure the spacers on the brake side are in the correct position. It has happened here before they were wrong and when the axle was tightened it put the wheel in a bind.

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its a '79 GL1000 so just the one spacer on the left/brake side
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ok, I went back and did a quick look but didn't see where you said which bike it was.

Book calls for torque on the axle nut to be 58-72 ft-lb. Set it to that and see if it still binds. If it does you have an issue someplace that needs to be addressed.
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never owned a torque wrench. don't think i've ever used one even. and yup, i realise they're probably regarded as an essential in any good tool box
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ifm61 wrote:never owned a torque wrench. don't think i've ever used one even. and yup, i realise they're probably regarded as an essential in any good tool box
I have several torque wrenches ,....but admit I don't use them as often as the manual suggests. However, there are several places where I do. All internal engine parts, and axle hardware both front and rear. I think that is important from a safety point
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There's no excuse for anyone in the US not having at least one https://www.hfqpdb.com/best_coupon/TORQUE+WRENCHES

Those of us in Canada have to wait until Princess has a sale...
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Sidecar Bob wrote:There's no excuse for anyone in the US not having at least one https://www.hfqpdb.com/best_coupon/TORQUE+WRENCHES

Those of us in Canada have to wait until Princess has a sale...
Well..... there are torque wrenches, and then there are torque wrenches. And always remember...you get what you pay for :roll: :roll: :roll:
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There has been a lot of discussion about that on cx500forum. The consensus is that 1) it is easy to calibrate a torque wrench by clamping the square in a vise and attaching a weight to the handle at a known distance from the point of rotation, 2) close is usually good enough (that's why they always specify a range of values)and 3) when multiple fasteners are involved (such as a set of head bolts) consistency is more important than accuracy.

In other words, any torque wrench is better than no torque wrench :orange
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Sidecar Bob wrote:There has been a lot of discussion about that on cx500forum. The consensus is that 1) it is easy to calibrate a torque wrench by clamping the square in a vise and attaching a weight to the handle at a known distance from the point of rotation, 2) close is usually good enough (that's why they always specify a range of values)and 3) when multiple fasteners are involved (such as a set of head bolts) consistency is more important than accuracy.

In other words, any torque wrench is better than no torque wrench :orange
I agree. And I guess I'm a bit of a tool snob. I've been turning wrenches since I was ten years old, and made a living doing it for many years. But to me, the feeling of satisfaction that comes with using quality tools is its own reward. I guess its just my thing. And I don't expect everyone to understand it. lolol lolol
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Most folks in this group understand I'm sure........
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