Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
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Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
A good friend of mine who was a Honda dealer in TX for many years has been watching my progress with my 78 GL. Today he asked me why I was sticking with the stock single piston calipers. He suggested bolting on some dual piston calipers like the ones used on many of the early-to-mid 80's Hondas. I didn't think it was possible, since bolt patterns, geometries, etc. may vary. I wasn't sure that there was a caliper hanger that could bolt right on. Well I'm really happy that I listened to him. When I got home, I grabbed a spare right caliper and hanger from my stock of "F" parts. Guess what - it bolts right on and everything appears to line up perfectly!
Someone here must have done this before - maybe many of our members have? How did I not know this until now? It even looks like the brake lines will be the correct length. Instant brake improvement!
Someone here must have done this before - maybe many of our members have? How did I not know this until now? It even looks like the brake lines will be the correct length. Instant brake improvement!
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
WOW,
How did we miss this all the time...
How did we miss this all the time...
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
yea really!!! awesome bolt on upgrade!
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
What bike are those twin calipers from? Not sure what you mean by "F".
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
Hey guys “Old Fogey” did this years ago.
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
This is why I asked if I someone else has already done this. I figured someone must have and I just missed the post. If this great, yet simple upgrade isn't in the technical section yet, it should be.hatchward wrote:Hey guys “Old Fogey” did this years ago.
All you need is a pair of left and right caliper brackets (aka hangers) from an '81 or '82 CB750F or CB900F. The left and right calipers are used on many models of Hondas from that timeframe, but I don't know if the hangers from other models besides the F's will work. There are physical differences, but maybe things still line up the way they should.
From a safety/braking standpoint, this is one of the biggest bangs you'll get for your buck without having to create anything special to make it work. I can't wait to see how the brakes feel once I finish up this project in September.
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
Well, if the calipers and hangers fit, does that mean the brake rotors will too? May be more options for aftermarket brake rotors.
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
Yes, the stock rotors fit fine. They're actually very similar to the rotors used on the 81 and 82 CB750F and 900F. They're dimensionally the same, so aftermarket rotors that fit these bikes will fit the GL.Sugs wrote:Well, if the calipers and hangers fit, does that mean the brake rotors will too? May be more options for aftermarket brake rotors.
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
Tried looking on EBay for some, nothing to be found unless I was using the wrong keywords.tomk1960 wrote:Yes, the stock rotors fit fine. They're actually very similar to the rotors used on the 81 and 82 CB750F and 900F. They're dimensionally the same, so aftermarket rotors that fit these bikes will fit the GL.Sugs wrote:Well, if the calipers and hangers fit, does that mean the brake rotors will too? May be more options for aftermarket brake rotors.
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
I've been wondering about this. I'm guessing the F master cylinder would complete the swap nicely. I wanted the smaller bore " flat" m.c. anyway for improved feel...
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
Tom,did you use F or GL lower brakeline? I want some S.S. braided replacements.
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
I'm using a CB1100F master for this build. Any of the "F" masters will work fine with these calipers. There are others that will too.digschopper wrote:I've been wondering about this. I'm guessing the F master cylinder would complete the swap nicely. I wanted the smaller bore " flat" m.c. anyway for improved feel...
It looks like the stock length GL lines will work. As soon as my new Galfer SS lines arrive, I will confirm.digschopper wrote:Tom,did you use F or GL lower brakeline? I want some S.S. braided replacements.
I'm a dealer for Galfer and get good pricing. If anyone is interested, I can provide a kitted caliper upgrade that would include new SS lines, powder coated dual piston calipers and hangers, mounting bolts, and rebuilt with K&L pistons and seals and Vesrah pads. Any kits I sell will result in a donation made to NGW.
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
This is very cool. And the fact that it's been done before is irrelevant. It is not commonly known and I am VERY happy to see this. In fact, it really shouldn't be too much of a surprise. Honda took advantage of economies of scale and shared parts across a lot of models. For instance, the CBX shares the same front rotor as the early GLs. (Early CBX caliper is still single pot, but it gained the twin pistons with the Pro-Link incarnation).
Thanks for bringing this up, Tom. Dang it. Another bit to spend money on...
Thanks for bringing this up, Tom. Dang it. Another bit to spend money on...
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Re: Twin Piston Calipers on a '78 GL
tomk1960 wrote:A good friend of mine who was a Honda dealer in TX for many years has been watching my progress with my 78 GL. Today he asked me why I was sticking with the stock single piston calipers. He suggested bolting on some dual piston calipers like the ones used on many of the early-to-mid 80's Hondas. I didn't think it was possible, since bolt patterns, geometries, etc. may vary. I wasn't sure that there was a caliper hanger that could bolt right on. Well I'm really happy that I listened to him. When I got home, I grabbed a spare right caliper and hanger from my stock of "F" parts. Guess what - it bolts right on and everything appears to line up perfectly!
Someone here must have done this before - maybe many of our members have? How did I not know this until now? It even looks like the brake lines will be the correct length. Instant brake improvement!
That is just amazing!!! I'll do the swapp ASAP.
Thank you for the info!!!
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