That was from between the coolant line and the cylinder head. Not sure why it was used, but it seems to have held. I don’t see any hairline cracks, but I imagine it will be easier to see once I’ve got everything cleaned up.scootsx2 wrote:What's up with what looks like blue RTV on the right side of the first photo?
Any hairline cracks in the cylinders or heads?
I Think I Just Killed it For Good...
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What is this?? Houston, I think we have a problem.
Should be an orifice there that looks like this:
Should be an orifice there that looks like this:
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I think it’s just the angle. Everything appears to be normal right there.ericheath wrote:What is this?? Houston, I think we have a problem.D0A26B68-1F35-4BCE-9257-0978F9CA2406.jpeg
Should be an orifice there that looks like this:8F0CC2AC-FB91-48FA-9E9F-FFE57AEF7A2D.jpeg
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Yeah, I think the oil orifice just looks funny because it's filled with chocolate milk, lol... did you install new spark plugs before this happened? #4 looks really bright and shiny. Coolant in the cylinder will steam clean stuff nicely...
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Yep, put 4 new spark plugs in. Only ran them for 2-3 miles. Glad to know there are signs of a blown head gasket. Maybe this won’t entirely be a waste of time/money. Lol. Now what on earth would cause that coolant pipe to burst?Track T 2411 wrote:Yeah, I think the oil orifice just looks funny because it's filled with chocolate milk, lol... did you install new spark plugs before this happened? #4 looks really bright and shiny. Coolant in the cylinder will steam clean stuff nicely...
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I've been messing with 4 cylinder wings for only a short time (8 years). I've never seen it. Maybe some of these guys who've been putzing with them for 3 or 4 decades can weigh in on that one. Superheated steam might do it, but I wouldn't expect the weakest point to be there...
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Me either. Which has me seriously concerned about what may be damaged inside the case. I’ve read a few things about people having a similar situation. With their cars. Sounds like it could have been weakend by a crack, and then it finally goes. But stills seems wrong that there could be THAT much pressure in the cooling system.desertrefugee wrote:...but I wouldn't expect the weakest point to be there...
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If you are going to remove both cylinder heads, you can visibly compare the reciprocal movement of each piston, in its respective cylinder bore, as the engine's crankshaft is rotated.
WHY?
If there has been sufficient unwanted liquid volume in a cylinder bore, and it has dynamically caused a hydrostatic lock to occur, there is a probability of a straight connecting rod, becoming a bent connecting rod. Then, its connected piston won't push as far up the cylinder bore as it should. Lower cylinder compression test results are probable, too.
CAUTION! If you attempt this pistons examination with one cylinder head still installed, that still installed cylinder head's, camshaft timing belt, has to be installed and properly timed, first, or valves will be damaged... bent...when the crankshaft is rotated sufficiently.
WHY?
If there has been sufficient unwanted liquid volume in a cylinder bore, and it has dynamically caused a hydrostatic lock to occur, there is a probability of a straight connecting rod, becoming a bent connecting rod. Then, its connected piston won't push as far up the cylinder bore as it should. Lower cylinder compression test results are probable, too.
CAUTION! If you attempt this pistons examination with one cylinder head still installed, that still installed cylinder head's, camshaft timing belt, has to be installed and properly timed, first, or valves will be damaged... bent...when the crankshaft is rotated sufficiently.
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What he said .... plus ....
Look VERY carefully as the difference can be slight ....
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Look VERY carefully as the difference can be slight ....
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I cringe whenever I think of fluid in a cylinder when the piston attempts to reach TDC.
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That would be ATDC .... Almost Top Dead Centre ....
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A depressingly, impressive show of unexpected destructive force?
Yielding a low tech, de-stroked cylinder?
Yielding a low tech, de-stroked cylinder?
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RAT wrote:That would be ATDC .... Almost Top Dead Centre .... <Almost....now that's clever, Gord!
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RE: a thorough fuel tank cleaning
"And your carbs will thank you. They no longer live down stream from a sewage plant." -gregforesi
"Can't see the paint when your looking thru the handlebars..........." -Oldewing
"I'd rather Ride than Shine" -RAT Me Too!!
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Finally got around to pulling the carbs. Here’s the explody bits. Also, anyone have a preferred carb shop to send these off to to be rebuilt?
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