1983 GL1100 Brake Lines?

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1983 GL1100 Brake Lines?

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I just ordered a set of stainless brake lines for my 1983 GL1100I but all lines are very short and there is no provision for the rear brake fitting (linked brakes). The seller insists that this line is for a 1983 GL1100.

My question is, are any of the 1983's brakes different. I was under the assumption that all the 1983's with linked brakes used the same system.

The lines are beautifully made, but are way way short, and have no provision for the unique rear brake line on the 83.

Thoughts?

I may have some really nice brake lines for sale if we can figure out what they fit. It is $38 bucks to ship them back to the UK so it isnt worth it to return them.
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Check out Z1 Enterprises. They have stainless steel brake lines in custom lengths with all of the fittings. The rear fitting for the master cylinder is different than the Banjo fittings, so make sure you order to correct part. All of their brake fittings and hoses are made by Goodridge which are DOT certified.
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I am currently trying to figure it out with the seller, It looks like all 3 bikes for 83 use the same lines on Partzilla and Bikebandit.

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Got a reply back from the company that made the brake lines in England (I am in the US). They stated that they have made over 30 sets and sold them for the 1983 GL1100 Goldwing, but that the 1983 GL1100's in England have drum rear brakes. As far as I know there has never been an opposed cylinder Goldwing with drum brakes. WOW!, Guess I am stuck with brake lines for a bike that never existed.
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I had a 1983 GL1100C from new back in the day and as you probably realise anyway, of course it had rear disc brakes. What is the company you are dealing with? You should be able to return them for a full discount including postage as they are not the correct ones and not fit for purpose. Dare I ask (yes I do!) if you got them on Flea Bay? If so you can get them to sort it out.

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1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
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It was an Ebay seller, Wezmoto. They make beautiful brake lines and include all the fittings, but the fact that they insist that the GL1100 they made it for has drum brakes is a super huge red flag that they have no idea.

It is $38 USD for return shipping on a $80 set of brake lines, and they claim that I am in the wrong for ordering the wrong part. I should have known that Honda made a GL1100 with drum rear brakes (THEY DIDNT)................................

They refuse to pay the return shipping, but offered for me to send them my lines (of a fully functional bike, halfway around the world) and they would make me a "custom set". They stand behind the fact that there product fits a 1983 GL1100.

They are nice lines, maybe I can find another application for them on another bike or car, it is just irritating that they still believe that crap about drum rear brakes.
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First of all, if it was EBay, and you paid by Paypal, you should contact them to complain.

Hope you don't mind, but I've just emailed this to them. May not help, but like you, hate to get fobbed off, especially when they are obviously WRONG. Don't use them yet, wait and see.

Hi there,

First of all, I do not know all the facts, and there are two sides to every story, BUT......

I am a member of a Goldwing Forum, and been following an article on one where you sent a set of brake lines to a customer in the US. The customer has told you they are not the correct ones as they are to short. He also states that you told him that the rear brake of a 1983 GL1100C had drum brakes! This is incorrect. Not only did I own one back in the day, but if you look here,

https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-gl1100-gold ... ml#results

https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-gl1100-gold ... ml#results

you can clearly see that the rear break is a disc brake. What you need to realise is that in this day and age, information can be passed very quickly around the world, and if you get a bad press then that is not good for business. The fact is that the hoses are wrong, and you are wrong to suggest that they were drum brakes, and for the sake of $38, you may lose more than one customer. If I had bought them, living in the UK, I would expect you to correct the problem or receive a full refund. I believe you could do worse than to do the same for overseas customers.

I hope you see sense and sort out the issues and look forward to hearing any comments you may have,

Jon
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1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
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2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
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He did reply and state that the "kit" was 3 lines for the front only, but even at that (I missed the part of the listing where in small print it said "front 3 lines"), they dont fit the front because they are way to short and with the linked brakes, they dont fit the fittings anyway.

Thanks for your support and help with the parts diagrams. I really think they had the bike confused with the GL650 and either wont admit it or just dont know.
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Did a little measuring. My 83 with linked brakes has a (approximate lengths due to bends exc) 36" right disc brake line with one banjo an one AN? fitting for a hardline for the linked system. The left front disc has a direct line from the front master cylinder that is approximately 46" in length. with a banjo on either end.

The lines that I received are 2x 21" with banjos on either end, and 1x 24" with banjos on either end.

Anyone have any idea what these lines are for? Pre 83 with unlinked brakes, or something like the GL650? As you can see they are at least a foot short of mine with one wrong end.
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"What you need to realise is that in this day and age, information can be passed very quickly around the world, and if you get a bad press then that is not good for business. The fact is that the hoses are wrong, and you are wrong to suggest that they were drum brakes, and for the sake of $38, you may lose more than one customer."

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Hi,
you have received a kit for GL1100 with unlinked brakes.
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PS:

This kit is only for front brakes
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Front brakes for what? Certainly not an '83.

Had a reply, and I quote, ' No, you do not know all the facts and we will leave it at that.'

Not the best customer service I've ever seen, so leave it up to you to decide.

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Previous Rides,
1980 CB250N Good to learn on
1981 CX500 good mid range tourer, went to Austria on it!
1983 GL1100C Pride and joy, sold when I bought my 1st house, big mistake
1985 GL650 Silverwing another mistake, horrible bike
1986 CBX550 Good commuter
1989 Suzuki GS750 (1976) cheap and cheerful until a dog ran out in front of me on Xmas Eve, 1991
Current bikes
2010 CB1300 back on a bike after 19 years, two divorces, children grown up etc
1980 GL1100 NOW ON THE ROAD, still use CB1300.
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chewy999 wrote:Front brakes for what? Certainly not an '83.
Sure this kit is for front brakes for 80-81-82 GL1100, not 83.
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tlbranth wrote:"What you need to realise is that in this day and age, information can be passed very quickly around the world, and if you get a bad press then that is not good for business. The fact is that the hoses are wrong, and you are wrong to suggest that they were drum brakes, and for the sake of $38, you may lose more than one customer."

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They lost me too Terry.
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