GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
I found a few more bits of the scavenge oil pump housing. I also found a few more bits of the disintegrated clutch plate.
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
I cleaned as much of the debris as I could from inside the housing and removed the scavenge oil pump.
There were a few more bits of the clutch plate lurking inside.
There were a few more bits of the clutch plate lurking inside.
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
I switched my attention to the front, and removed the front cover.
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
I removed the oil pump assembly.
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
This sludge you can see is not good. It contains metal particles.
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
It does seem then that metal bits have passed through the scavenge pump and into the main crankcase.
The crankcase does seem clean inside.
The water pump rotor is quite wobbly too so that will be replaced.
The crankcase does seem clean inside.
The water pump rotor is quite wobbly too so that will be replaced.
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
Yummy! (NOT!) I have popped off the side cover (oil pickup screen) and sprayed out the gunk with brake cleaner...
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
Liam, I hope you are splitting it right down. There are a miriad places inside the webs in those cases that can harbour more of that sludge.
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
Yes John I am going to split it right down. I have spent about an hour each evening so far for the last 3 evenings.
First evening I took off the rear cover and took out the old scavenge pump.
Then I took the front cover off and took out the main oil pump and shaft.
The second evening I took off the timing belts and both cylinder heads.
There are carbon deposits on all piston crowns and in the heads which I was expecting as I had been running on a set of
1100 carbs before this clutch episode happened.
Last evening I took off the starter motor and the Alternator rotor and starter drive chain.
I am taking lots of pictures as I go along to help me in the reassembly.
I am taking notes of all the bolts too making sketches and noting all the bolt sizes.
I am doing this because quite a few of the bolts have been replaced with gold headed dome bolts,
I want to replace these with originals or at least the same type as the originals. Every bolt on this engine is chrome plated.
Tonight if all goes well I will split the cases. Fingers crossed. I will put up a few pictures later today .
First evening I took off the rear cover and took out the old scavenge pump.
Then I took the front cover off and took out the main oil pump and shaft.
The second evening I took off the timing belts and both cylinder heads.
There are carbon deposits on all piston crowns and in the heads which I was expecting as I had been running on a set of
1100 carbs before this clutch episode happened.
Last evening I took off the starter motor and the Alternator rotor and starter drive chain.
I am taking lots of pictures as I go along to help me in the reassembly.
I am taking notes of all the bolts too making sketches and noting all the bolt sizes.
I am doing this because quite a few of the bolts have been replaced with gold headed dome bolts,
I want to replace these with originals or at least the same type as the originals. Every bolt on this engine is chrome plated.
Tonight if all goes well I will split the cases. Fingers crossed. I will put up a few pictures later today .
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
Hello Liam,
Your pics and commentary are very helpful. Best of luck to you sir.
Your pics and commentary are very helpful. Best of luck to you sir.
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
Here is a picture of one pair of cylinders.
There is very little wear apparent.
There is very little wear apparent.
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
Here then is the other side:
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
Here are the cylinder heads:
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
Looks to be in good shape on the top end. Fingers crossed for you on the bottom side!
"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail" - Abraham Maslow
"If you can't take the time to do it right the first time, how are you ever going to find the time to do it over?" -Unknown
Current Rides:
'Grumpy' - '81 Standard, now fully dressed.
'Layla' - '81 Standard w/dealer installed fairing and Hondaline bags.
'Scarlett' '76 'Survivor' nekkid as a j-bird!
Under Construction:
The 'Jalopy' '78-'79 Mash-up
'Quikie' '81 gl1100I back on the lift, project with the step-son!
In The Shed:
'81 gl1100I barn find aka "Josie, the farmer's daughter." (almost comatose build)
'77 gl1000, roller parts bike.
'82 gl1100I, 'Old Crusty' titled roller parts bike (free!)
'82 gl1100I, My first 'Wing, and an expensive lesson!
New2U Bike? Read Me.
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Re: GL1000LTD Clutch and oil pressure issues.
Work got in the way the past while, so only got round to splitting the casings today.
I spent a lot of time cleaning the outside and figuring out how it all came apart.
I spent a lot of time cleaning the outside and figuring out how it all came apart.
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