Timing hybrid 1976-1978 GL1000 engine

[ericheath]

Randakks at the top of the page, click and hold on "blog/tech", then down to "links". From there you can navigate to "honda gl1000", on the right side. Then you have to scroll down to find the link you're looking for, in your case, split timing technique.

[spiralout]

I found Randakk's hard to navigate too, until I found this page and bookmarked it. There's a link to every article on the site, all categorized.
http://www.randakksblog.com/site-map/

[Hal]

So does it spin on the bench? Maybe it doesn't like being mounted in a cursed bike.

Ha ha.....not tested that, will check tomorrow..

Thanks for the key to Randakk's new site, BTW!

[terry_208]

.....It starts first kick on the kicker, so I took it for a test run.

I have yet to get mine to start on the kick starter...maybe I'm too old.

[Hal]

.....It starts first kick on the kicker, so I took it for a test run.

I have yet to get mine to start on the kick starter...maybe I'm too old.

I doubt it!

If it's all adjusted spot-on it should be easy to start. Unlike my Yam XT500 single which kicks back viciously if you do it wrong.....the GL is a pussycat.

[Hal]

My starter motor, with effectively new brushes, and looking perfect inside, when I tested it on the bench is 100% dead.

The one on the solo bike has been getting slower and slower for a while, so I think I'll take that one off as well, maybe I can make one good one with the two....

Where's the smiley for "tearing your hair out"???

[wittmann]

Hi Hal,
The Smiley for 'Tearing your hair out'... is next to the one, that I used .................when I removed the starter motor on the side stand.... and found that the oil Exits from the nice large hole that you have just made into the Crank case !!!.... ( Thanks Mr HAYNES for the warning on that one !!) .....
.... That was many years ago now though...

[Hal]

I'm glad you posted that,Wittmann, as I'm sure I've read somewhere that that is exactly what you are supposed to do in order to prevent the starter cog chain from falling back into the motor.....!

Fortunately removing the starter on the sidestand isn't really an option with a sidecar.

1/ It has no sidestand

2/ Even if it did, it'd need more strength than I possess to haul the vile machine up to a 45° position, though maybe if I did, the multiple gremlins and tiny demonic critters that seem to have infested it would be washed out with the oil?

Just a thought.

PS Glad to see you're still on board....how's tricks?

[Old Fogey]

It can't fall into the engine, but if the engine is horizontal the sprocket wants to sit off-centre for slipping the starter nose into it. That makes it a lot harder to refit the starter.

[Hal]

It can't fall into the engine, but if the engine is horizontal the sprocket wants to sit off-centre for slipping the starter nose into it. That makes it a lot harder to refit the starter.

Hmmmm...glad you posted that! I'll need to use a jack when I put it back then.

[Hal]

Cleaned the starter from the solo bike and fitted it to the rig.

It has some striking low end hesitancy, but it's probably due to the inability to set the static ignition....I'll try to sort this this weekend.

Goes very well above 3000rpm though.

[ericheath]

Can't set low end because it's staying lit on both sides still? I wonder if you could pull the feed from one side and time the other and then visa versa?? You must have a connector somewhere that's bad. Low spark's all it takes to throw the low rpm off. You could also check your connectors to the condensers. Maybe they're tied in together there. One point set's wire goes to one of the wires from the condenser and the other set's wire goes to the other on the condenser.

[Hal]

I'll have a look at that Eric.

.....I'll need to borrow the test light again, but my buddy with the nice bike collection and the Egli Vincent may be getting a visit soon, he should be able to throw some light on the problem I think......I don't see how both sides can be permanently 'live', points closed or open, and the thing still running..... even theoretically.

Took it for a fast test this evening and (above 3000rpm) it went very well, got back and the oil cooler had just cut in, there were no strange noises from the cooling system like before and it's now fully oiltight as well.....before I had a slow leak from the spin-on filter extension, but I made a spacer which allows the whole thing to be properly tightened down before fitting the filter.....as it was, the pressure exerted by the filter was all that was pressurising the seal under the extension collar!

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[wittmann]

That sure is one nice looking 'Outfit' that you have created there.. .
.
IF... (and hopefully this will not be the case)... its still a bit underpowered.... Rather than spending a fortune on a Custom Super charger... How about one from a Mercedes Kompressor or even the BMW Mini.. ??.... These super chargers turn up all the time on Evilbay....They are Very cheap..... and they could be belt driven from an extension to the crank as usual.... Blow through carbs are the best option for super charging as I am sure you know.. ..so for a man of your talents, it should be fairly 'straightforward'.... just make 2 of everything.....Then you can 'sell' me a kit so that I can convert Mal...

[Hal]

Somehow the blower isn't right at the top of my 'to do' list just now!

I'm still trying to work out what's happening with my cb points unit.

As I see it, the wires that go to the unit are both permanently live 12v when the ignition is switched on.

On a normal set, with the points closed, the current flowing down the moving contact spring goes to earth through the fixed point contact, and this earth is via the backplate, then the body of the cb unit, then via its bolts to the cylinder head, which itself earths through its six fixing bolts to the block.

I'm wondering whether this earthing can have gone sufficiently feeble that when I put my meter or light on the cb springs it finds a better path to earth though the light cable or meter.

Is this possible?