What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
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What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
I am new to the NGWClub community and want to purchase a gold wing in the very near future, I really like either the 78 or 79 and was wondering if any of you out there have any tips or tricks on what to look for when buying a used gold wing as well as what to avoid. I was also searching for some sort of guide to what to replace/clean/polish immediately after one purchases a gold wing but found no topic as such. I would really appreciate if any of you have any tips tricks or how to's on those to subjects. Thanks in advance!
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
what you buy depends on what you want to do with the bike. a long distance cruiser? custom? restore? rat bike? cafe'? if you want a CHEAP buy, and plan on doing a lot of work yourself, just try for a good engine.
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
Ran when parked. Price decreases sharply if it doen't run when you're looking at it! Carbs are most suspect if it's been sitting due to very small passages getting clogged.
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
Here's a good place to start reading. http://www.randakksblog.com/category/ho ... rs-gl1000/
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
Thank you for all the replies so far. I am looking to do a cafe build.
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
wit a cafe', the only really important things are the engine and the frame. most everything else gets changed or modified anyway. if you can find one with most of the things you will not be changing, even better
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
ive done plenty of research on the 77, 78 and 79 but i found a killer deal on an 84, and i havent seen many 84 cafes out there... would they still be decent candidates?
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
depends.... if it is an 84 standard the VALUE is in being stock as they are rare... Interstates can be stripped down with modifications, but not a lot.... apsencades require a lot of mods
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The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
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"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
in my opinion any model can be converted. the wheel base is longer on the 84. by difination a cafe' is a bike for bar hopping. lighter, and shorter wheel base is better for that. however and 84 is a little beefier, if you like that look. i would ck out the photo gallery for ideas
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1977 custom with 1200 engine
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
Personally, I go for the cheapest COMPLETE bike I can find. I have no qualms about repairing nearly anything on the bike, but individual parts start to get pricy after a while. Check that the engine at least turns over (not a bum motor) and that the frame is solid (they like to rust around the center stand) and that the wheels are true (not bent is a good thing) and the rest will fall into place. Keep in mind that you will most likely have about $2-3k in the bike to have it rideable. The more you spend on the bike the more rideable it should be. Barn finds should be cheap, but you will make it up in parts along the way.
My first 76. I paid $650 for, and it needed the brakes redone, tires, all hoses and a myriad of smaller things. Total invest on it was just over $1500, so I got off cheap, partly because the PO had just done a Randakks kit in the carbs (Yes, I saw the receipt). that alone saved me nearly $150, so was worth it.
My second (and current) 76 was bought as a rolling frame, and I have nearly $2.5K into it at the moment with all the parts that were missing, along with paint and other sundries. When done I'll have a nearly new 40 yr old bike, probably worth less than what I have into it. but I will know that everything is correct on it from a mechanical standpoint.
Point is that this is not really a super cheap hobby, and some of us get pleasure from the work involved (like myself). I prefer the challenge of the unknown, and go for what most others would call a parts bike. to each their own...
My first 76. I paid $650 for, and it needed the brakes redone, tires, all hoses and a myriad of smaller things. Total invest on it was just over $1500, so I got off cheap, partly because the PO had just done a Randakks kit in the carbs (Yes, I saw the receipt). that alone saved me nearly $150, so was worth it.
My second (and current) 76 was bought as a rolling frame, and I have nearly $2.5K into it at the moment with all the parts that were missing, along with paint and other sundries. When done I'll have a nearly new 40 yr old bike, probably worth less than what I have into it. but I will know that everything is correct on it from a mechanical standpoint.
Point is that this is not really a super cheap hobby, and some of us get pleasure from the work involved (like myself). I prefer the challenge of the unknown, and go for what most others would call a parts bike. to each their own...
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
Check for rust in the frame gusset on the left side where the swingarm pivots are. Water tends to collect there from being on the kick stand.
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
An important question is how much you enjoy working on mechanical things and solving vexing problems. I enjoy that as much as riding and have built two cafes from boxes and baskets. But as others have said, this gets expensive fast, especially if your standards are fairly high (and I am not talking about a show bike).
You may be money ahead to buy the very best bike you can find, then strip off the stuff you don't need and call it quits.
You may be money ahead to buy the very best bike you can find, then strip off the stuff you don't need and call it quits.
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83 XL 600r with a 2004 XR650L engine
And a slightly worse for the wear BMW GS adventure bike awaiting repair
83 GL in process
83 XL 600r with a 2004 XR650L engine
And a slightly worse for the wear BMW GS adventure bike awaiting repair
83 GL in process
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
I realize that this hobby is not cheap, thats why i have saved up around $5,000 just for buying and modifying a gold wing to my liking. all i really want to do is strip the bike, do all the maintenance required, replace the seat with a dark wing seat and seat pad (which i have heard had many debates on weather or not it was a cafe racer seat), lower the suspension a bit, polish what needs to be polished and repaint a few items. (wheels and fairings)
and yes, i very much so like the mechanical aspect. i have enjoyed building and fixing motocross bikes since i was about six with my father.
and yes, i very much so like the mechanical aspect. i have enjoyed building and fixing motocross bikes since i was about six with my father.
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Re: What to look for and what not to look for when buying?
That is about the right money in my experience....
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+1 on what Roncar said...Randaak's tips are a good starting point...and there's plenty of knowledgeable/passionate members on this site...I couldn't have built mine without tips and tricks from all the good guys here...
If you are aiming for a quality build, you'll need to keep your credit card loaded and ready to fire...
Check out the various build threads here.
I suggest GregForesi's White Trash as a most excellent example....
And Sunnbobb always seems to come up with creative ideas too...
Then there's HOTT's bikes...
What more can I say...there's lots of talent lurking around here...
Hey that reminds me, Easter, have you put together a pictorial thread on your bike? I'd love to see that one...
+1 on what Roncar said...Randaak's tips are a good starting point...and there's plenty of knowledgeable/passionate members on this site...I couldn't have built mine without tips and tricks from all the good guys here...
If you are aiming for a quality build, you'll need to keep your credit card loaded and ready to fire...
Check out the various build threads here.
I suggest GregForesi's White Trash as a most excellent example....
And Sunnbobb always seems to come up with creative ideas too...
Then there's HOTT's bikes...
What more can I say...there's lots of talent lurking around here...
Hey that reminds me, Easter, have you put together a pictorial thread on your bike? I'd love to see that one...
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