Rusty water
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Rusty water
Hi all,
Finally getting started on my GL1100 rebuild. It was stored outside under a cover for about 3 years with no exhausts fitted. I wasn`t sure if the engine would turn over. The good news is that it does, the bad news is that I had a small puddle of rusty water come out of each exhaust port.
I`m wondering if this is just condensation that has built up over the years, or could it have a blown head gasket?
Someof the valves would have been open so some of this water may have got into the cylinder head. I`ve popped off the rocker covers and the valve gear looks alright.
I suppose what I`m asking is, do I need to strip the engine. I`m gonna strip and respray the frame now after I saw all the rust behind the fuel tank.
Any advice much appreciated
Wolf
Finally getting started on my GL1100 rebuild. It was stored outside under a cover for about 3 years with no exhausts fitted. I wasn`t sure if the engine would turn over. The good news is that it does, the bad news is that I had a small puddle of rusty water come out of each exhaust port.
I`m wondering if this is just condensation that has built up over the years, or could it have a blown head gasket?
Someof the valves would have been open so some of this water may have got into the cylinder head. I`ve popped off the rocker covers and the valve gear looks alright.
I suppose what I`m asking is, do I need to strip the engine. I`m gonna strip and respray the frame now after I saw all the rust behind the fuel tank.
Any advice much appreciated
Wolf
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Re: Rusty water
Since you stated "Any advice much appreciated" I'll comment.
Done right you'd remove the heads, inspect the cylinders and what you can see of the pistons, get a valve job for openers. OR, put on the exhaust and see what happens when you run it. Then do a compression test. Your choice.
I'd be worrying more about the condition of the idle circuits of the carbs. If there's rust in the gas tank I'd put my attention there first.
My opinion. Others may differ.
Best of luck with your project. You will get through it.
Done right you'd remove the heads, inspect the cylinders and what you can see of the pistons, get a valve job for openers. OR, put on the exhaust and see what happens when you run it. Then do a compression test. Your choice.
I'd be worrying more about the condition of the idle circuits of the carbs. If there's rust in the gas tank I'd put my attention there first.
My opinion. Others may differ.
Best of luck with your project. You will get through it.
Bob Gill
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Re: Rusty water
One thing with the rusty water, It may have been laying on a closed intake and flowed into the cyclinder as you turned it over. There must not have been very much or it would have hydro locked. I bought a junkyard wing that when turned over, dumped a couple of
tablespoons of rusty water over my foot, like you no exhaust.
tablespoons of rusty water over my foot, like you no exhaust.
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Re: Rusty water
try pouring some light weight oil into the spark plug openings and turn it over. but from there, you will just have to hope the cylinder walls aren't ruined
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Re: Rusty water
That's a very good point Rodger. Usually prefered is Marvel Mystery Oil. I'm getting close to cranking my '77 for the first time in years and I'll be doing the same.rcmatt007 wrote:try pouring some light weight oil into the spark plug openings and turn it over. but from there, you will just have to hope the cylinder walls aren't ruined
Thanks for that reminder, Rodger.
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Re: Rusty water
I agree on the MMMO, but I doubt he has that in England. you can also pour in a little kerosene or diesel
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Re: Rusty water
I did not realize he was on the other side of the pond.rcmatt007 wrote:I agree on the MMMO, but I doubt he has that in England. you can also pour in a little kerosene or diesel
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'78 Honda GL 1000 Gentle Glide
'77 Honda GL 1000 Black Mamba (Sold)
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Re: Rusty water
very close to you in the south of France - LOL
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"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
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The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
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"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
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79 project, finished, FOR SALE
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Re: Rusty water
I`ve used a couple of squirts of clean engine oil in the plug holes. There was a bit of resistance to start with, then the rusty water came out, now it turns over freely. I think I will take the heads off anyway just for a look see.The carbs will be fully stripped and sonically cleaned.
Thanks for the help.
Not sure what Marvel Mystery oil is but I like the sound of it.
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Rusty water
I'm sure that if you were to ask the manufacturer they'd tell you.Wolf wrote:Not sure what Marvel Mystery oil is but I like the sound of it.
But then they'd have to shoot you.
Bob Gill
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It's never too late to have a happy childhood!
I've considered joining Insomniacs Anonymous, but I decided I'd sleep on it.
'96 Honda GL 1500A Rolling Couch (Not Naked)
'78 Honda GL 1000 Gentle Glide
'77 Honda GL 1000 Black Mamba (Sold)
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It's never too late to have a happy childhood!
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Re: Rusty water
It is the cure all for everything.... it even is good over iceRecycled Roadkill wrote:I'm sure that if you were to ask the manufacturer they'd tell you.Wolf wrote:Not sure what Marvel Mystery oil is but I like the sound of it.
But then they'd have to shoot you.
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The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
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76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
all it takes for evil to prosper is the want of a few good men to do nothing-Edmund Burke
The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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Re: Rusty water
I think you're taking the right approach by pulling the heads. You just can't be sure what you have until you can actually see it in front of you.
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