Working on my GL1200 carbs, The only carbs I've rebuilt myself are my cb500T .. so I have a few questions.. and might have more soon enough...
I believe these were taken off a bike and stored inside, overall not too bad... but could use some cleaning id imagine
1. I see theres an excellent 1100 rebuild in shop talk, but i was unable to locate a 1200 rebuild, is there one on here?
2. With throttles and and chokes seeming to move and operate freely, how far into a clean/rebuild would you go?
3. I remove the "carb banks" from each side, both are still together as 2, at this point is it wise to seperate them into single carbs?
4. The one pair looks pretty good / not a lot of gumminess, but the side , is this the Air vent? (i have a FSM and it seems to be..) Why wouid this be all gummed up?
5. If seperated, honda says to use new O-rings, can these be sourced from "o-ring kits" or do i need to buy honda/randakks, generally most of the rubber on these appear in good shape (haven't seprated) and I want to avoid buying anything I dont have to
I'll leave it at that for now i guess, with a picture of the gummy "air vent" if i am correct
GL1200 Carb Rebuild / Clean up questions
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GL1200 Carb Rebuild / Clean up questions
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1977 GL1000, with GL1100 engine and carbs....in progress
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
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Re: GL1200 Carb Rebuild / Clean up
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1977 GL1000, with GL1100 engine and carbs....in progress
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
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Re: GL1200 Carb Rebuild / Clean up questions
Throttle and choke moving freely doesn't really mean that much. In my opinion they don't really need to be separated but do need to be disassembled. Caps off the top and pull the slides and inspect the diaphragms. They have to move smoothly. Keep the individual parts with each carb so you can put them back where they came.
Float bowls off and remove jets, floats and float needles. All need to be spotlessly clean. Count the turns on the mixture screws then remove them and clean the screws/needles and squirt lots of carb cleaner into the hole from which they came.
When you think you have the idle jets clean, clean them again. You have to see all the way through them and the holes are tiny. I find that boiling the jets, both main and pilot, in distilled water for 15 to 20 minutes goes a long way toward cleaning them.
Other than their orientation they are like any other CV carb. So any video on cleaning/rebuilding CV carbs would apply.
Float bowls off and remove jets, floats and float needles. All need to be spotlessly clean. Count the turns on the mixture screws then remove them and clean the screws/needles and squirt lots of carb cleaner into the hole from which they came.
When you think you have the idle jets clean, clean them again. You have to see all the way through them and the holes are tiny. I find that boiling the jets, both main and pilot, in distilled water for 15 to 20 minutes goes a long way toward cleaning them.
Other than their orientation they are like any other CV carb. So any video on cleaning/rebuilding CV carbs would apply.
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Don't fix it 'til it's broke...
The person with the most toys wins!
If it has wheels or a skirt you can't afford it.
Amateur Radio Station WW9L
71 CL350 with Bingham side car
2021 HD Triglide
2008 HD Dyna Low Rider
83 KZ1100L1 Son totaled it
83 KZ550LTD Shaft sold
Previous bikes: 84 GL1200 STD, 83 KZ550LTD, 83 CB1000, 78 CB400A, 82 CB900F, 79 CB750K, 2001 GL1800, 2000 Dyna Super Glide, 1972 CB350 K4, 1985 GL1200A, 1997 1200 Sportster, 84 GL1200I, 82 Honda CM400E, 81 Suzuki GS650L, 72 Triumph Bonneville 750, 72 Honda CB350, 66(?) Honda 305 Scrambler, 6? Yamaha yz250, 62 650 Matchless (Norton-Villers).
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Re: GL1200 Carb Rebuild / Clean up questions
One more thought. You would only have to separate them if they leak fuel from the interconnecting fuel passages.
New users please visit our "Shop Talk" for common tips and help:
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Don't fix it 'til it's broke...
The person with the most toys wins!
If it has wheels or a skirt you can't afford it.
Amateur Radio Station WW9L
71 CL350 with Bingham side car
2021 HD Triglide
2008 HD Dyna Low Rider
83 KZ1100L1 Son totaled it
83 KZ550LTD Shaft sold
Previous bikes: 84 GL1200 STD, 83 KZ550LTD, 83 CB1000, 78 CB400A, 82 CB900F, 79 CB750K, 2001 GL1800, 2000 Dyna Super Glide, 1972 CB350 K4, 1985 GL1200A, 1997 1200 Sportster, 84 GL1200I, 82 Honda CM400E, 81 Suzuki GS650L, 72 Triumph Bonneville 750, 72 Honda CB350, 66(?) Honda 305 Scrambler, 6? Yamaha yz250, 62 650 Matchless (Norton-Villers).
John
http://ngwclub.com/forum/page/ST
Don't fix it 'til it's broke...
The person with the most toys wins!
If it has wheels or a skirt you can't afford it.
Amateur Radio Station WW9L
71 CL350 with Bingham side car
2021 HD Triglide
2008 HD Dyna Low Rider
83 KZ1100L1 Son totaled it
83 KZ550LTD Shaft sold
Previous bikes: 84 GL1200 STD, 83 KZ550LTD, 83 CB1000, 78 CB400A, 82 CB900F, 79 CB750K, 2001 GL1800, 2000 Dyna Super Glide, 1972 CB350 K4, 1985 GL1200A, 1997 1200 Sportster, 84 GL1200I, 82 Honda CM400E, 81 Suzuki GS650L, 72 Triumph Bonneville 750, 72 Honda CB350, 66(?) Honda 305 Scrambler, 6? Yamaha yz250, 62 650 Matchless (Norton-Villers).
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Re: GL1200 Carb Rebuild / Clean up questions
As with many Kehin carbs. Hopefully the PO will have removed the tamper plugs but be very careful when removing the idle Mixture screws. each one has a tiny O ring and tiny back up washer that the tension spring pushes against. They often stay in the carb body and get lost in the cleaning. A Very very tiny hook made from safety wire can be used to pull them out. Do not lose the washer. The Randakk kit is excellent. I went the OE Honda route and bought the rubber o ring kits for around 12 dollars each and they even came with the small needle/float seat strainers and all the "o" rings and such. The diaphragms are fragile if you get carb cleaner on them.
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84 GL1200I work in progress
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Re: GL1200 Carb Rebuild / Clean up questions
jdvorchak wrote:One more thought. You would only have to separate them if they leak fuel from the interconnecting fuel passages.
Thanks ... they dont seem to be leaking anywhere, but i never did run them, other than that air vent tube pictured? I'm not sure why it would be gummed up with fuel?
most things were fairly clean... but I'll clean them twice
The tamper plugs were not on these carbs, and i did forget to count the turns.... carbs are from 84,
I read somewhere there were some differences in the 1200 carbs?
These are going on my 76 GL1000 with the 86 1200 from a fuel injected 1200
1977 GL1000, with GL1100 engine and carbs....in progress
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
1984 GL1200 Ascenpade gone naked...............in progress
1976 GL1000 1200 Engine, 1200 wheels...........in progress
1983 GL1100 Stock, fully functional!
1982 GL1100 ..................................................in progress
1976 GL1000 Stock resto....................... .........in progress
1978 GL1000....Upgraded...Bad cylinder............in progress
1982 CB900, 83 GL1100 rear end, 2006 gsxr1000 front end, 1200 front wheel..... in progress
1981 CB750k Needs attention.... in progress
The more time I spend on here the farther behind I get
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Re: GL1200 Carb Rebuild / Clean up questions
I cleaned mine up with them still on the plenum. I used randakks gasket kit.
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all it takes for evil to prosper is the want of a few good men to do nothing-Edmund Burke
The question is not how much time do you have, it is what you do with the time that you have Gandalf
"One of the greatest dignities of humankind is that each successive generation is invested in the welfare of each new generation." Fred Rodgers
"it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert" ancient saying
78 constantly modified/customized since 1978, BOTM June 2015 de-evolving this very moment viewtopic.php?f=30&t=65511
76 Ltd "cookies bike" ALMOST DONE
79 project, finished, FOR SALE
'86 1200 (Beth's)(FOR SALE) with motorvation sidecar (sidecar sold) , July 2017 BOTM
'17 HD Road king and 08 HD Heritage softail (Beth's) (FOR SALE). I guess you can say we have MBS
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