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 Post subject: Elec. ignition for a GL1000. Dyna S or Other?
Post Number:#1  PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:38 am 
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Am I to assume the dyna s is the preferred available elec. ignition for the GL 1000's?

I did install one, got it to work but liked the dyna III that was orig. on the bike and eventually went back to that. Of course I sold a new one of those thinkin I was done with 1000's

I have a 75GL now I'd like to put one in. I noticed Sunnbobb had found a nice new dyna 3 awhile back. I'd like one of those too please!

Barring that, is the Dyna S the only reliable, readily available elec. ignition for a GL1000?

Anyone have a best price site they could recommend?

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Pony Ruiz wrote:
is the Dyna S the only reliable, readily available elec. ignition for a GL1000?
Pretty sure it's the only one still available 'new.' Not enough demand for GL1000 electronic ignitions to justify any competition. :cry:

I haven't searched, but price seems to be pretty much constant at around $125+.

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 Post subject: Re: Elec. ignition for a GL1000. Dyna S or Other?
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What did you perceive the difference to be between the S and the III? They really are the same ignition. The S just has everything in the plate where as the III had the seperate box. Makes for a cleaner install with the S.

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 Post subject: Re: Elec. ignition for a GL1000. Dyna S or Other?
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robin,

if I remember correctly the dyna s module would not move far enough and I had to make the slot bigger so it would. I think some have reported doing this as well.

the III had more room to move. Other than that I liked the fact one did not have to find a place for that big black box.

minor. just checkin...

yeah Ron - 125 was what I saw too....

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I just trimmed my Dyna S so I could get it right.

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Google Search for "Pazon GL1000 Ignition"
DYNA is not the only electronic ignition out there.
DYNA S in my bike now.
Something is going to replace it, probably the Pazon unit.
My DYNA is half failing me now. Cheaply made IMO.
DYNA is a big outfit that has been around for quite a while now. With lean manufacturing processes and inexpensive Chinese parts, DYNA may very well be labeling "Made in America", but the truth is closer to "Assembled in America with Chinese parts".


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I see the installation instructions but when I do searches fro the actual product (PDHG1) nothing comes up. Besides it looks like they are cost prohibitive for most of us.

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Whiskerfish wrote:
I see the installation instructions but when I do searches fro the actual product (PDHG1) nothing comes up. Besides it looks like they are cost prohibitive for most of us.



On their site I found an energy booster than can be used with the stock points. I also found spark units for the GL1100. Replaces the stock ignitor boxes. Didn't see a complete ignition though for the 1000.

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http://www.pazon.com/files/PDF/PDHG1.pdf

Is the DYNA III still available? Myself, ...not even curious to find out.

At least this fella is in business with a warranty. Hall-Effect is good. Something in my DYNA's magnetic pick-up is failing. Hall-Effect modules rarely fail. IME, I cannot say that about magnetic pick-ups. This guy is on to something...
Sometimes you just gotta ante-up and Pay the Piper. Most have to save to get their carbs done properly, what's the difference with ignition? Is it less important?

I cannot explain away anything I've done to result in my DYNA 3/4 triggering module failing. 200 miles out, what's DYNA gonna do for me when I need a trailer? Nothing, that's what. I'm willing to gamble that one, a HE sensor won't fail, and two, one less module to have fail (if ever) is better odds in my favor of not having a ignition failure. I realize there are die-hard DYNA-Fans out there, but I'm no Cheerleader for anyone. I want maximum performance and reliability. This isn't the first time a DYNA module has crapped-out on me. Pazon is a option with its HE scheme and amplifier box. I'm saving my money as we speak...


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 Post subject: Re: Elec. ignition for a GL1000. Dyna S or Other?
Post Number:#10  PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:46 am 
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gregh35,

is there a setup for the GL that you have found?

how much are they?

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gregh35 wrote:
http://www.pazon.com/files/PDF/PDHG1.pdf

Is the DYNA III still available? Myself, ...not even curious to find out.

At least this fella is in business with a warranty. Hall-Effect is good. Something in my DYNA's magnetic pick-up is failing. Hall-Effect modules rarely fail. IME, I cannot say that about magnetic pick-ups. This guy is on to something...
Sometimes you just gotta ante-up and Pay the Piper. Most have to save to get their carbs done properly, what's the difference with ignition? Is it less important?

I cannot explain away anything I've done to result in my DYNA 3/4 triggering module failing. 200 miles out, what's DYNA gonna do for me when I need a trailer? Nothing, that's what. I'm willing to gamble that one, a HE sensor won't fail, and two, one less module to have fail (if ever) is better odds in my favor of not having a ignition failure. I realize there are die-hard DYNA-Fans out there, but I'm no Cheerleader for anyone. I want maximum performance and reliability. This isn't the first time a DYNA module has crapped-out on me. Pazon is a option with its HE scheme and amplifier box. I'm saving my money as we speak...


Are we sure that the dyna is not a hall-effect sensor? has anybody checked if the rotor is magnetic?

It would seem to me that a hall-effect would be the most logical choice for dyna. It cuts down on the amount of trigger circuitry required.

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Post Number:#12  PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:53 pm 
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having an extra dyna S with you is better in my view than points plate ...but i have them to do that.... never had to use one though.....

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 Post subject: Re: Elec. ignition for a GL1000. Dyna S or Other?
Post Number:#13  PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:08 pm 
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Good idea Joe.... gets expensive - $250 for two of those things.

I sent Pazon and email - no elec. ignition for the GL 1000...

here is the reply:

Dear Bob,



Thank you for contacting us.



We do make replacement ignitor sets for some Honda models, including CB750F/900F/1100F/CBX1000 plus some CB650 and GL1100 models.

These ignitors are normally made by OKI and have the part number MPS-200.

There are two units on a four cylinder; one for 1-4 cylinders and one for 2-3.

They each have a small 6-way connector that plugs into the wiring loom.

Our units plug into the harness in the same way, but are a bit larger than the original.



If your bike has contact-breakers then these units will not be suitable, unless a set of electronic ignition pickups (and rotor) can be made to fit.



Many years ago we produced a Smart Fire (digital) ignition system for the GL1000.

When we were based in the UK, a small number were produced in conjunction with one of our dealers (Kirby Rowbotham).

He produced the necessary specialist hardware, and we provided the electronics.

Unfortunately this system is no longer available.



Best regards,

Andy Perkins

PAZON IGNITIONS LTD.

Keeping Classic Bikes on the Road

www.pazon.com





PAZON IGNITIONS LTD.

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Tel: +64 75495878

Fax: +64 75495879

Email: ignition@pazon.com

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Post Number:#14  PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:17 pm 
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Yea I had searched their site and other than the instruction pdf I could not find any info on that particular model. Besides it looks like most of their systems start at well over $500, a large chunk of money.

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Post Number:#15  PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:53 pm 
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I don't see anyone "cheerleading" for Dyna. They are just the most popular if not the only electronic aftermarket kit out there. I believe there are a lot more successes with the Dyna than failures. You just only hear about the ones that do fail. And Dyna is very good about testing them if you send them back.

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